How difficult and how much to convert artic trailers from air bag to steel?

[stuart]

@DX 3.90 did you do daves when he had that compressor for the air suspension on his bale trailer?

 

[Hilly]

Not tried it yet still converting the trailer, but the chap from Tortrax says that they have had no complaints. He said that they have had one broken, but that was when the farmer drove into a ditch.
Each axle is rated at 10 tons, so with 3 axles remaining, including the dolly, we should have plenty of capacity for straw.

how long is it going to be and what type of bale do you intend to haul and how high ?? interested cos looking at another trailer for myself but hesstons 3 high require a good trailer with the correct suspension.

 

[mo!]

These are ours:

 

[Mursal]

Would have thought a rubber rebound in beside the chain (or where ever) would help with stability for three high?

 

[Barleycorn]

how long is it going to be and what type of bale do you intend to haul and how high ?? interested cos looking at another trailer for myself but hesstons 3 high require a good trailer with the correct suspension.

We generally go 4 high with quadrants, so 44 on a load, about 15 tons so nothing for the trailer. As discussed on another thread we could put 5 high, but all the trees / hedges round here are sagging over the road and it's not worth the hassle for a shortish run.
If you had Hestons three high that would be 33 bales on a 45' trailer, 1/2 a ton a bale and you would be around 16 tons, norhing for a trailer designed for 44 tons.

 

[Cowcalf]

We generally go 4 high with quadrants, so 44 on a load, about 15 tons so nothing for the trailer. As discussed on another thread we could put 5 high, but all the trees / hedges round here are sagging over the road and it's not worth the hassle for a shortish run.
If you had Hestons three high that would be 33 bales on a 45' trailer, 1/2 a ton a bale and you would be around 16 tons, norhing for a trailer designed for 44 tons.

the trailer is not designed for 44 ton that is the total weight of artic unit, trailer and load.
the average artic trailer will have a 24-29 ton load

 

[Chae1]

We generally go 4 high with quadrants, so 44 on a load, about 15 tons so nothing for the trailer. As discussed on another thread we could put 5 high, but all the trees / hedges round here are sagging over the road and it's not worth the hassle for a shortish run.
If you had Hestons three high that would be 33 bales on a 45' trailer, 1/2 a ton a bale and you would be around 16 tons, norhing for a trailer designed for 44 tons.

It's the height and how they lean that's the issue. Not weight. Personally I go 3 high with hesstons and single row along top layer.

 

[Barleycorn]

the trailer is not designed for 44 ton that is the total weight of artic unit, trailer and load.
the average artic trailer will have a 24-29 ton load

I stand corrected, but it is still about 50% underrated, so should do the job at low speeds.

 

[masseyfendt37]

Would have thought a rubber rebound in beside the chain (or where ever) would help with stability for three high?

Or shock absorbers

 

[Barleycorn]

Or shock absorbers

These trailers have shock absorbers which are left in place.

 

[joe soapy]

Best to sort tractor with air, then no problem with sourcing trailers. and neighbours cant borrow them
so easily
B wary of replacing 5th wheel with a drawbar as the trailers are very flexible and reley on the turntable to stay upright.
Its surprising where a dolly and 40ft trailer can get to

 

[Jake H]

These are ours:

Hi came across your post from a few years ago. I'm trying to find some of these just wondered if you know of any where supplying them? Cheers. Jake

 

[Jake H]

Here it is.

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Hi do you know of any where that can still supply these springs I can't find them anywhere! Cheers. Jake

 

[mo!]

Hi came across your post from a few years ago. I'm trying to find some of these just wondered if you know of any where supplying them? Cheers. Jake

Yep, got four in the shed unused.

 

[Jake H]

Am I right in thinking they are rated to 5t? How much are you looking for, for them? And where are you?

 

[4755dave]

theres a chap on ebay selling such coil spring conversions, look good and not excessively expensive at 150 each inc all bracketry

 

[Hilly]

It's the height and how they lean that's the issue. Not weight. Personally I go 3 high with hesstons and single row along top layer.

Height has no bearing, its suspension suspension suspension if carrying 3 hesstons high, height is no relevance, my trailer is same height as an artic and can carry 3 hesstons high no problem alot lower ones cant even carry two high without swinging.

 

[kx-91]

theres a chap on ebay selling such coil spring conversions, look good and not excessively expensive at 150 each inc all bracketry

What are they listed as? Just had a quick search but couldn't find them

 

[fermerboy]

This looks like the job

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Agricultu...620958?hash=item2cbbff229e:g:8HoAAOSwax5YzCDb

 

[4755dave]

Thats them