How good are Sip rakes

Servac

Member
Location
Wales
We've had a Twose branded SIP single rotor rake since 2009 and the only problem we've had is a roll pin breaking on the drive shaft (twice).
 
SIP rakes to me seem very similar to the Lely Hibiscus rakes. In particular the rotors and cam tracks. I would say identical in fact? Rake that has impressed me the most in the last while has been the modern Krone Swardos, seem really well designed and heavy and strong to boot. And can travel at a nice pace in good crops/ Would not rate the lely,claas or fella for contract work on the typical crops experienced in the UK and ROI.
 

Cmoran

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Galway Ireland
Few sip rake and tedders around here with last few years since local dealer started selling them everyone seems to be very happy with them mostly replaced Claas rakes and lely tedders. Thinking of going for a rake this year as well if Malone hasn’t his in production will definitely go for sip
 

Martin Holden

Member
Trade
Location
Cheltenham
SIP rakes to me seem very similar to the Lely Hibiscus rakes. In particular the rotors and cam tracks. I would say identical in fact? Rake that has impressed me the most in the last while has been the modern Krone Swardos, seem really well designed and heavy and strong to boot. And can travel at a nice pace in good crops/ Would not rate the lely,claas or fella for contract work on the typical crops experienced in the UK and ROI.
Interesting observations! As I stated earlier in this subject, SIP used to build the Krone rakes and tedders (not sure if all or part of the ranges) so in fact there’s more similarity between SIP and Krone. The rotor heads are similar. To be fair the designs have diverged a bit in the last few years as internal developments have taken both down different routes. If the Lely reminds you of the SIP I would suggest that Lely May well have copied SIP in fact.
 

Martin Holden

Member
Trade
Location
Cheltenham
They look a decent machine, used to have 2 stoll rakes and the newest one was an absolute disaster. Been on Claas since and they have done me well
Did you have the M Pro series or the smaller 655? The 655 from around 2009/2013 were mainly made in China and the quality control was, well vacant! No idea where they are made now or how, so mustn’t judge new models as have no knowledge. If you had an M Pro which was either 8 or 8.6m they should have been fairly ok. Only the first batch had some issues. Actually the designer of the M Pro left Stoll to go to Claas, so small world eh?
 

wrapthat

Member
Did you have the M Pro series or the smaller 655? The 655 from around 2009/2013 were mainly made in China and the quality control was, well vacant! No idea where they are made now or how, so mustn’t judge new models as have no knowledge. If you had an M Pro which was either 8 or 8.6m they should have been fairly ok. Only the first batch had some issues. Actually the designer of the M Pro left Stoll to go to Claas, so small world eh?
Both were M Pro 800’s the older green one was practically indestructible, the newer red one was the problem one. Could snap a time arm every other day literally, and it never hit anything in its life. Ended up parking it up and just using the green one
 

Martin Holden

Member
Trade
Location
Cheltenham
Both were M Pro 800’s the older green one was practically indestructible, the newer red one was the problem one. Could snap a time arm every other day literally, and it never hit anything in its life. Ended up parking it up and just using the green one

Ok I remember. The red ones
Both were M Pro 800’s the older green one was practically indestructible, the newer red one was the problem one. Could snap a time arm every other day literally, and it never hit anything in its life. Ended up parking it up and just using the green one
Aha, yes I think the early red ones had tine arm issues which were never fully solved, so they were dropped in favour of the 2 models also now available in New Holland colours. These don’t have sealed can track like the MPro range and indeed the SIP/Krone
 

wrapthat

Member
Ok I remember. The red ones

Aha, yes I think the early red ones had tine arm issues which were never fully solved, so they were dropped in favour of the 2 models also now available in New Holland colours. These don’t have sealed can track like the MPro range and indeed the SIP/Krone
Are there going to be any Sip 8.5m demo rakes knocking about early summer. Our local dealer is selling them, impressed with the look of them, but would ideally like to try one
 

Martin Holden

Member
Trade
Location
Cheltenham
Are there going to be any Sip 8.5m demo rakes knocking about early summer. Our local dealer is selling them, impressed with the look of them, but would ideally like to try one
Yes, I am planning to run an 850 for demos in May and June. It would be with the optional rear walking tandem axles on the rotors; they make a huge difference to how the rake travels. Fitted a set to one they was in steep rig and furrow last season and it transformed it. Wouldn’t have believed it if I hadn’t seen it with my own eyes
 

jonnyjon

Member
It's between sip and krone , the sales rep for Sip is a neighbour and he's pushing me to buy one , if they are as good as they look I'd have no problem buying one , big name companies are known to make poor rakes too.
Have you considered a v rake? I bought a 4 rotor Claas last year and I'm happy with it but sorry I didn't go for a v rake now. So simple with little to go wrong and a fraction of the price
 

james ds

Member
Location
leinster
Have you considered a v rake? I bought a 4 rotor Claas last year and I'm happy with it but sorry I didn't go for a v rake now. So simple with little to go wrong and a fraction of the price
I have looked at them but I'm not convinced that they work in all conditions . Time will tell , I know two contractors who have bought them recently. So time will tell.
 

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