How Hungary Cut Illegal Immigration By Over 99%

[wanton dwarf]

Not my democratically elected government.

You're actually trying to associate guilt of a country by association with it's elected representative - someone who in most peoples eyes is a criminal ... there is nobody in any country that will accept that.

Were all the Russian's tarred because of Stalin or Putin ... you really are a peice of work.

One moment the left is trying to point out that everyone is just innocent & we should have open borders ... the next they are all guilty of past "crimes" and should pay for our sins by open borders.

 

[Ashtree]

You're actually trying to associate guilt of a country by association with it's elected representative - someone who in most peoples eyes is a criminal ... there is nobody in any country that will accept that.

Were all the Russian's tarred because of Stalin or Putin ... you really are a peice of work.

One moment the left is trying to point out that everyone is just innocent & we should have open borders ... the next they are all guilty of past "crimes" and should pay for our sins by open borders.

I’m not trying to associate guilt with any one citizen.
I’m saying your constant blaming everything including the weather on Blair and Labour and so on is poppycock.
Labour MP’s would have stopped the war if the Tory’s and DUP hadn’t voted for it.
Time you acknowledged that.
In short you don’t need Labour, or the BBC or the EU for your country to take it upon itself to bomb other countries. Your one parliament can, does and on past performances will do it all over again.

Won’t be your fault though.

 

[baabaa]

Not my democratically elected government.

really?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...lice-colluded-ira-troubles-book-kieran-conway

 

[JMx]

Left wing dogma

i actually like it when girls are a bit left wing.... means they come from good maternal stock.. compassion, caring values etc... More important than being rational and hmmmm lets say adds some spice too

 

[Smith31]

The younger generations all over the world, with their access to the Internet are naturally more compassionate. The war mongering right wing media outlets are losing their power. The vote for Mr Corbyn proves that.

Furthermore the power that China now holds (controls most of Africa) creates restrictions for the Americans to go and bomb at free will.

I couldn't care less about the leaders, but when innocent women and children are bombed and their homes and lives are shattered in the pursuit of oil, I do feel incredibly sorry for them.

 

[Smith31]

I dont think many would turn away the kids and women, but when you see the tv pics the majority are young males who should be at home fighting for the countries future, did you not seethe pics from the jungle at calais, didnt see many women and kids there,I have a friend who drives a truck to europe and he says the violence they use to try and get to the uk is far worse than whats reported, but yes the west does have to accept some of the blame for causing the issue

Yes but the majority of these males are from Afganistan and Iraq, they did not want to come here until Mr Blair and his European colleagues bombed their countries and made themselves multi millionaires in the process. Literally smiling all the way to the bank.

 

[wanton dwarf]

I’m not trying to associate guilt with any one citizen.
I’m saying your constant blaming everything including the weather on Blair and Labour and so on is poppycock.
Labour MP’s would have stopped the war if the Tory’s and DUP hadn’t voted for it.
Time you acknowledged that.
In short you don’t need Labour, or the BBC or the EU for your country to take it upon itself to bomb other countries. Your one parliament can, does and on past performances will do it all over again.

Won’t be your fault though.

Absolute bull.

Take this the other way, and turn the situation on it's head.

What if the the dossier was in fact correct and because the Tories voted the convenient way you want ... the UK ended up with 100,000s dead. All you are doing is blaming a set of people you don't like.

Those that voted did so to the best of their ability - it was not their fault Tony Blair was a liar.

Of course parliament will go to war if required but being fooled to do so towards that end is treasonous.

Labour MPs on their own could have stopped the war as they had by far the most numbers. I have no problem with how people voted on the day - they only did what they could.

Yeah I know it's not my fault.

 

[wanton dwarf]

The younger generations all over the world, with their access to the Internet are naturally more compassionate. The war mongering right wing media outlets are losing their power. The vote for Mr Corbyn proves that.

Furthermore the power that China now holds (controls most of Africa) creates restrictions for the Americans to go and bomb at free will.

I couldn't care less about the leaders, but when innocent women and children are bombed and their homes and lives are shattered in the pursuit of oil, I do feel incredibly sorry for them.

Young people are not more compassionate proven by scientific research. The reason the young are more likely to be employed & used for war is because they do not have the emotional response & rational and are easily dominated. In other words when they are told to do something they do it even if they disagree with it. At 40 if somebody told me to do something I disagreed with they get told to get lost and they'll also get a lecture with possible reporting to the authorities.

The vote for Corbyn shows how easily led the young are. Corbyn is an old man who knows exactly how the young can be manipulated and exactly how the education system is geared & domainted by the Left.

Corbyn hasn't worked a day in his life. He will quite happily use the young of today to hurt UK tax payers. I don't agree with Labour's policies of taking from the majority and giving to those in a Union. I know teachers who quite happily point out it is in their interests to vote Labour so they can have more at everyone else's expense. Welcome to "Socialism" where some people are more "Equal" than others.

Don't get me wrong. I like teachers & value what they do. But I don't recognise Socialist values in Unions taking from everyone else nor their glib response that I should be in a Union if I want the same.

Iraq & Afghanistan = Tony Blair, Left Wing
Libya = Hilary Clinton & Obama, Left Wing
Syria = Hilary Clinton & Obama, Left Wing

BTW Corbyn was in the same Tony Blair government during both the Iraq & Afghanistan wars. He NEVER put his morals before taking his wage from the Labour Party. Most people would run a mile when one person lost their life. Corbyn kept his seat & was paid as an MP whilst 100,000s lost their lives & 1,000,000s became refugees.

Any decent average person would have packed in their job and TOTALLY disassociated with any group of people involved in that.

I was all Lefty when I was young - mostly because I was indoctrinated at school and made to feel guilty for my heritage. It took until I was 25 to learn how wrong they were.

All mainstream media is "losing thier power" ... The Guardian recently had to ask the public for funds because it's Charity Trust donated many years ago has run out and doesnt have the readership to support it.

I notice you don't mention Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Russia & Iran.

If you didn't know Saudi Arabia organised the destruction of Libya with the help of Clinton who got $millions into her Clinton Foundation ... Clinton spent $1.2 billion during the USA election.

America is fighting a war against Jihad ... if they & the Russians didn't do that those Jihad's would sweep into Europe and it is the youth of today in Europe that would be conscripted to fight them. Something I don't think you appreciate. Our society is weak and ripe for being taken over. Be careful what you are voting for because if it goes the wrong way you will be fighting.

 

[baabaa]

the useful idiots

 

[wanton dwarf]

the useful idiots

Really sad to see young people being manipulated by a twisted old bugger - Corbyn, I'd love to push the chap mentally and see if he cracked to see the venier beneath. He's almost done it a few times on camera ... shame he didn't get pushed enough to show what he is really like.

 

[Danllan]

Really sad to see young people being manipulated by a twisted old bugger - Corbyn, I'd love to push the chap mentally and see if he cracked to see the venier beneath. He's almost done it a few times on camera ... shame he didn't get pushed enough to show what he is really like.

While at a personal level I would have sympathy for JC, we do need to see a 'potential PM' tested, and I think the only person who would do this well enough at the moment is Andrew Neil. Mr Corbyn has two key failings that a bit of pushing would reveal: relatively little will power and only hard left dogma, i.e. no real policies. If AN were to get him and keep at him on these, it would be a revelation to some. He also needs to give definitive answers in re' his support of terrorists and various affiliate of them.

 

[Smith31]

Young people are not more compassionate proven by scientific research. The reason the young are more likely to be employed & used for war is because they do not have the emotional response & rational and are easily dominated. In other words when they are told to do something they do it even if they disagree with it. At 40 if somebody told me to do something I disagreed with they get told to get lost and they'll also get a lecture with possible reporting to the authorities.

The vote for Corbyn shows how easily led the young are. Corbyn is an old man who knows exactly how the young can be manipulated and exactly how the education system is geared & domainted by the Left.

Corbyn hasn't worked a day in his life. He will quite happily use the young of today to hurt UK tax payers. I don't agree with Labour's policies of taking from the majority and giving to those in a Union. I know teachers who quite happily point out it is in their interests to vote Labour so they can have more at everyone else's expense. Welcome to "Socialism" where some people are more "Equal" than others.

Don't get me wrong. I like teachers & value what they do. But I don't recognise Socialist values in Unions taking from everyone else nor their glib response that I should be in a Union if I want the same.

Iraq & Afghanistan = Tony Blair, Left Wing
Libya = Hilary Clinton & Obama, Left Wing
Syria = Hilary Clinton & Obama, Left Wing

BTW Corbyn was in the same Tony Blair government during both the Iraq & Afghanistan wars. He NEVER put his morals before taking his wage from the Labour Party. Most people would run a mile when one person lost their life. Corbyn kept his seat & was paid as an MP whilst 100,000s lost their lives & 1,000,000s became refugees.

Any decent average person would have packed in their job and TOTALLY disassociated with any group of people involved in that.

I was all Lefty when I was young - mostly because I was indoctrinated at school and made to feel guilty for my heritage. It took until I was 25 to learn how wrong they were.

All mainstream media is "losing thier power" ... The Guardian recently had to ask the public for funds because it's Charity Trust donated many years ago has run out and doesnt have the readership to support it.

I notice you don't mention Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Russia & Iran.

If you didn't know Saudi Arabia organised the destruction of Libya with the help of Clinton who got $millions into her Clinton Foundation ... Clinton spent $1.2 billion during the USA election.

America is fighting a war against Jihad ... if they & the Russians didn't do that those Jihad's would sweep into Europe and it is the youth of today in Europe that would be conscripted to fight them. Something I don't think you appreciate. Our society is weak and ripe for being taken over. Be careful what you are voting for because if it goes the wrong way you will be fighting.

You do speak some rubbish.

My doctor and dentist are both Muslim, they are the nicest people you could wish to meet. I have had holidays in Egypt, Turkey, Dubai etc,again lovely people.

However yes SOME Muslims do not like the Europeans because of the illegal wars which have destroyed their countries and lives. How did the Jews feel about the Nazis?

Muslims have been a large part of the European population for decades, so how have they taken over?

Maybe you should go and spout this rubbish in front of 50,000 Manchester City fans where a certain Arab has just pumped over a billion pounds into their football club and city. If you tell these fans that they are being taken over by aMuslim, you will most certainly get sworn out of the stadium by your fellow countrymen and women.

 

[wanton dwarf]

While at a personal level I would have sympathy for JC, we do need to see a 'potential PM' tested, and I think the only person who would do this well enough at the moment is Andrew Neil. Mr Corbyn has two key failings that a bit of pushing would reveal: relatively little will power and only hard left dogma, i.e. no real policies. If AN were to get him and keep at him on these, it would be a revelation to some. He also needs to give definitive answers in re' his support of terrorists and various affiliate of them.

Perhaps but is Neil strong enough, will he cave in & will there be a chaparone to intervene ? .. I'd like to push him on his adherance to the Labour Party & his motives given all the people that have died.

If he had morals those in the Labour party would have jumped ship & created a new party - whilst pushing for Tony Blair & the cabinet to be convicted.

Instead they've circled the wagons & waited for their past indiscrestions to be forgotten - usually takes a good 5 years, they would get away with it without the internet. We have everything recorded and alive.

Corbyn wants power at any cost IMHO & backed by the looney toons that created Derek Hatton.

 

[wanton dwarf]

You do speak some rubbish.

My doctor and dentist are both Muslim, they are the nicest people you could wish to meet. I have had holidays in Egypt, Turkey, Dubai etc,again lovely people.

However yes SOME Muslims do not like the Europeans because of the illegal wars which have destroyed their countries and lives. How did the Jews feel about the Nazis?

Muslims have been a large part of the European population for decades, so how have they taken over?

Maybe you should go and spout this rubbish in front of 50,000 Manchester City fans where a certain Arab has just pumped over a billion pounds into their football club and city. If you tell these fans that they are being taken over by aMuslim, you will most certainly get sworn out of the stadium by your fellow countrymen and women.

Hmmm .. .do you know you are now talking in language which can be applied to Race Hate ?

I think you are just a Left Wing activist only too willing not to face up to facts and only too willing to attempt to use the law to your own ends.

Attempting to castigate others, put words in their mouths, avoid the points I did post and move on to arguments never even intermated.

You are far left.

Recent news of how a Saudi Arabian prince has been ursurped & $800 Billion of funds renationalised by Saudi Arabia is quite obviously important. We have yet to see how that money has been used and by whom.

I've not mentioned these things ever on here because the truth has not yet come out. But given your obvious weakness towards what is going to come out and your defensiveness towards certain subjects ... I think those that are looking into these issues cant be far off the mark.

 

[Smith31]

Hmmm .. .do you know you are now talking in language which can be applied to Race Hate ?

I think you are just a Left Wing activist only too willing not to face up to facts and only too willing to attempt to use the law to your own ends.

Attempting to castigate others, put words in their mouths, avoid the points I did post and move on to arguments never even intermated.

You are far left.

Recent news of how a Saudi Arabian prince has been ursurped & $800 Billion of funds renationalised by Saudi Arabia is quite obviously important. We have yet to see how that money has been used and by whom.

I've not mentioned these things ever on here because the truth has not yet come out. But given your obvious weakness towards what is going to come out and your defensiveness towards certain subjects ... I think those that are looking into these issues cant be far off the mark.

I am not left wing, I am simply pointing out that all Muslims are not terrorists which is a fact. And if someone needed my help regardless of their colour or religion, I would try and help not build a fence. As God forbid, one day England maybe war torn and my family may be in a similar predicament as these immigrants.

You should Google; Syrian refugee tripped by Hungarian camera woman Real Madrid.

It was families of refugees trying to enter Hungary from their war torn countries not jihadis.

 

[wanton dwarf]

I am not left wing, I am simply pointing out that all Muslims are not terrorists which is a fact. And if someone needed my help regardless of their colour or religion, I would try and help not build a fence. As God forbid, one day England maybe war torn and my family may be in a similar predicament as these immigrants.

You should Google; Syrian refugee tripped by Hungarian camera woman Real Madrid.

It was families of refugees trying to enter Hungary from their war torn countries not jihadis.

If the UK was war torn I would fight to the death as my ancestors have for 1000s of years.

I wouldn't flee to another country to use their benefits system.

I PAY into the immigration system in the UK to get a passport. Which lets other countries know my criminal record so they can assess whether I will endanger their state & culture.

Why is Soros giving information to "Refugees" on how to avoid immigration ?

A picture tells a thousand words on whether there were any families involved.

 

[Danllan]

I am not left wing, I am simply pointing out that all Muslims are not terrorists which is a fact. And if someone needed my help regardless of their colour or religion, I would try and help not build a fence. As God forbid, one day England maybe war torn and my family may be in a similar predicament as these immigrants.

You should Google; Syrian refugee tripped by Hungarian camera woman Real Madrid.

It was families of refugees trying to enter Hungary from their war torn countries not jihadis.

I hope this a just an accident in word-order due to over-fast typing, that sometimes happens to me too. If it isn't a mistake, it is not fact but utter rubbish.

With regard to large numbers of Muslim refugees, I don't think anyone would deny that the West had a considerable hand in the root of the situation, but is by no means solely to blame; I also think that it is a simple moral act of common humanity to help others when one can.

However, just looking at the individuals who came to Europe as would-be refugees does raise the obvious question of why are they are, overwhelmingly, young men. We are already know, from Germany and elsewhere, that large numbers of these people are not legitimate and some are dangerous. I dare say they will be a minority, even a small minority; but even just one percent equates to more than 10,000 potential threats. There are now calls, from some politicians in Europe, to allow those already ensconced to bring their relatives too, as of right.

 

[asparagusbrain]

i actually like it when girls are a bit left wing.... means they come from good maternal stock.. compassion, caring values etc... More important than being rational and hmmmm lets say adds some spice too

Is there a possibility that "girls" could hold opinions independently of their breeding qualities?

 

[linga]

Is there a possibility that "girls" could hold opinions independently of their breeding qualities?

Good God no.. do you realise how dangerous that would be !!

 

[Danllan]

Is there a possibility that "girls" could hold opinions independently of their breeding qualities?