How many acres do you farm?

[Brisel]

As per the title. This follows on from @Sweepa 's poll about how many acres you own.

You can include land owned, rented, contract farmed or where you do at least 80% of the work/operations.

No agronomists, agents or consultants doing thousands of acres please - just farmers/farm managers or representatives of those farms.

@admin Is it possible to add another poll to the thread for labour units per acre? That would differentiate between hill farms with little labour & an intensive dairy/vegetable unit with lots of employees. One full time person = one labour unit. If the partner helps out for half the time = 1/2 labour unit. Harvest casual for 3 months = 1/4 unit.

 

[Sweepa]

Someone farms 3000-5000 acres , would like to know the subsidy on that.

 

[SRRC]

Exactly the same as someone with less than 100 acres! (per acre)

 

[GTB]

4.5 labour units here. Could manage with two less if the whole farm was in one block.

 

[spin cycle]

Someone farms 3000-5000 acres , would like to know the subsidy on that.

'flagship estate' near me a few years ago posted a £550k loss despite getting £1.25 million in subs

 

[Brisel]

Someone farms 3000-5000 acres , would like to know the subsidy on that.

3500 acres split between 2 farms, so 2 claims.

 

[Hilly]

Someone farms 3000-5000 acres , would like to know the subsidy on that.

Most of my neighbours farm that amount, acers owned rented farmed what ever in general its a mute point bigger the farm poorer the land, or in arable bigger the farm bigger the bills ie more staff more machines than agco.

 

[Brisel]

'flagship estate' near me a few years ago posted a £550k loss despite getting £1.25 million in subs

Must have a good accountant or an extravagant owner or both! I have no idea which estate you are referring to as there are lots of flagship estates in Norfolk.

 

[snarling bee]

not enough!

 

[TheRanger]

Someone farms 3000-5000 acres , would like to know the subsidy on that.

Probably some teuchter

 

[Surgery]

Too little on a good year. , too much on a bad year

 

[d-wales]

4250 here. But 4000 is on a hill (common land). So not as good as it sounds haha. 2 units

 

[Nearly]

about half of them.

 

[shearerlad]

About the 400 mark here. 250 owned/150 on seasonal lets.

On subject of big units. Worked on a place of 35,000 acres but 34,800 was open hill

 

[Yale]

Per man/labour unit would be an interesting statistic but that all depends on type of land and cropping or livestock so a useless statistic.

You can have a 1 acre farm with thousands of chickens or pigs with a turnover ten times larger than a hill farm with 5000 acres of moorland and rock.

Strangely the Welsh government are not going to take any of this into account (apart from the rock).

 

[Brisel]

Thankfully DEFRA decided against trying to use the wage bill to offset capping. Whilst the idea is a good one because it would level the playing field - rural employment has been a cornerstone of the CAP since the Treaty of Rome - administering such a test for BPS would have been an absolute nightmare.

 

[Jackson4]

Around a 100ha on me tod. May is officially the month of the herbicide.

 

[spin cycle]

Must have a good accountant or an extravagant owner or both! I have no idea which estate you are referring to as there are lots of flagship estates in Norfolk.

i don't mind the local estates...they've gobbled up large/medium farms that at one stage would've gobbled me up....but i sometimes feel that if a small farmer looses money it's because they are deemed inefficient yet when a big estate looses money it's because they have a good accountant

 

[Brisel]

And better excuses...

 

[Suffolk Serf]

I'm confused, I have 110 acres, all rented, so i'm a small farmer but It keeps four of us busy (myself and three employees) so i'm either quite large or very inefficient. My turnover, if I quoted it, would make me sound large or big headed.
So maybe it's not how much you have but what you do with it.