How many bales can a Bio baler bale before a Bio baler should be burnt?

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What would be considered a "high" bale count for a tidy, well looked after Kuhn i-Bio? Asking for a friend.
 

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I'd say one bale is more than enough. The last Bio I had anything to do with gave more trouble in a week than its Fusion 3 replacement has given in 7 seasons
What trouble did it give exactly? Anything specific or was it just a general pain in the ass?
 

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I'd say one bale is more than enough. The last Bio I had anything to do with gave more trouble in a week than its Fusion 3 replacement has given in 7 seasons
Did it give any specific trouble or was it just a general pain in the ass?
 

hally

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We had two and they were a pile of junk, neither got to 10k bales without multiple breakdowns, running a fusion 3 on over 30k now and it’s never been touched.
 

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Some will like the Bio for being lighter than a Fusion. Regardless of how reliable they are, imo they are seriously flawed by having to stop and wrap and re-engage PTO before continuing.
Another thing that people disregard that I found a massive bonus was that the bale wrapper on the fusion doubles as an accumulator, working in a corner/points make the transfer and continue baling, leave the wrapped bale off in a corner on a sweep back around. A stand-alone or Bio would have to reverse a whole lot or in a place littered with bales take a long jog of a detour to get back into work. By the time all that happens the Fusion has another bale made.

The original Fusion is 20 years old now. Still will work the arse of a Bio and are built like a tank.
 

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20 year old Fusion..... built like a tank.
That's the problem.

Everyone I've talked to said I'm dreaming when I said I wanted to run a Fusion behind 130hp and 57lpm open center hydraulics, but I'm sure I remember seeing Fusion 1's being dragged behind old Fiats and the likes back in the day?

I guess everything needs a million hp these days.
 

daveydiesel1

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That's the problem.

Everyone I've talked to said I'm dreaming when I said I wanted to run a Fusion behind 130hp and 57lpm open center hydraulics, but I'm sure I remember seeing Fusion 1's being dragged behind old Fiats and the likes back in the day?

I guess everything needs a million hp these days.
Theres a man near here runs a fusion behind a fait and does contracting with it
 

Cowabunga

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That's the problem.

Everyone I've talked to said I'm dreaming when I said I wanted to run a Fusion behind 130hp and 57lpm open center hydraulics, but I'm sure I remember seeing Fusion 1's being dragged behind old Fiats and the likes back in the day?

I guess everything needs a million hp these days.
On the flat, 130hp could manage one, just about. 57lpm hydraulics mean that the wrapper works a tad slow and that the oil probably heats up more than a ccls system would, even though 100lpm would make the machine substantially faster. What with the weight of the unit, the potential performance or appetite of the baler, the power consumption as the baler chops and comes up to maximum chamber pressure carrying two heavy bales, the power consumed by the hydraulic motors and driving up hill, the Fusion would slow the 130hp tractor down a bit. Maybe not such a bad thing, depending on expectations. In any case it would bale twice as fast, or better, than a Bio.
 

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