How many collars/peds for heat detection?

[Slowcow]

They were having whole beet on top of silage, this was morning milking New Year's Day last year (so beet that was fed on 31/12). We have fed fodder beet for years and never had a problem before. They had been on it for about 4 weeks. We had a slightly dirty load previously and had dropped the kg down a bit. This load came on the afternoon of 30/12 and was much cleaner. Increased the amount only slightly - not up to the full amount that the nutritionist had advised.

(Very experienced) vet thought it was a combination of the slight increase, plus cows keener to eat due to no dirt, (obviously some ate more than others) plus possibly some change to the DM /sugars due to change of variety and some frost at the merchants before it was delivered.

As well as the 2 that we lost, the vet treated 4 others who all recovered (he had warned us we would almost definitely lose 2-3 as he treated them). 2 were obvious but 2 others looked OK but the rumination monitor on the collars flagged them up as struggling. Not a good start to 2021, calling vet out at 7 am!

Thanks for the reply, that sounds like a horrible thing to happen!
Are you still feeding beet or has it put you off?

I'm hopefully going to chop in in the wagon so maybe less likely to get a problem mixed with silage? Start them slowly I think.

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

Thanks for the reply, that sounds like a horrible thing to happen!
Are you still feeding beet or has it put you off?

I'm hopefully going to chop in in the wagon so maybe less likely to get a problem mixed with silage? Start them slowly I think.

Be fine in the wagon.

 

[Princess Pooper]

Thanks for the reply, that sounds like a horrible thing to happen!
Are you still feeding beet or has it put you off?

I'm hopefully going to chop in in the wagon so maybe less likely to get a problem mixed with silage? Start them slowly I think.

Yes still feeding, we dropped them back and built it back up again (remember this was a year ago). We haven't got a wagon and don't feed TMR. We have fed chopped before but I think they actually eat it quicker. I think the frost had a lot to do with it, it messes with the sugars.

 

[dairydurham]

Yes still feeding, we dropped them back and built it back up again (remember this was a year ago). We haven't got a wagon and don't feed TMR. We have fed chopped before but I think they actually eat it quicker. I think the frost had a lot to do with it, it messes with the sugars.

How many Kg were you feeding ?

 

[Beef farmer]

How many Kg were you feeding ?

1st to the trough just gorge. That's the issue with no tmr

 

[Princess Pooper]

1st to the trough just gorge. That's the issue with no tmr

It was in 2 different sheds

 

[Jerseycowman]

yep I know someone who has it and thinks it's the dogs dangleys. I think someone on here has it too @Jerseycowman ???

@Homesy Sorry not me, have nmr silent herdsman in, a good job although the collars give a lot of bother and dont last. Have it in 10 years nearly and the computer has started giving bother to.

 

[Princess Pooper]

@Homesy Sorry not me, have nmr silent herdsman in, a good job although the collars give a lot of bother and dont last. Have it in 10 years nearly and the computer has started giving bother to.

We are about at the same with Silent Herdsman, a good system but lots of failed collars, have had one major upset with the computer (about same age as yours) which our local IT shop sorted. (was like breaking into Fort Knox apparently). We can't get Internet access so a pain having to get the code to continue another year.

 

[Real cool]

When I read on hear of the failed collars and problems makes our £2.70 plus vat per month look very attractive.
Replacement and up grade foc and use your computer.

 

[Kiss]

When I read on hear of the failed collars and problems makes our £2.70 plus vat per month look very attractive.
Replacement and up grade foc and use your computer.

On any lease if it’s not working it goes back/gets replaced with ours we have spares here they tell me when its not working, but at £1 a month, only when it’s lost we pay

 

[Princess Pooper]

When I read on hear of the failed collars and problems makes our £2.70 plus vat per month look very attractive.
Replacement and up grade foc and use your computer.

We've always got the replacement collars for free as they have been within warranty and usually the animals are in calf by then so not even hidden cost of a missed heat. Just a nuisance that's all.

 

[Princess Pooper]

We've always got the replacement collars for free as they have been within warranty and usually the animals are in calf by then so not even hidden cost of a missed heat. Just a nuisance that's all.

Apart from when we have increased the actual number of collars, I don't think we have paid anything for collar replacements since we first bought the system 10-12 years ago!

 

[crashbox]

Anyone bought a new system this year? How's it going?

@Beef farmer what did you go for in the end?

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

Has anyone got the sensetime tags from allflex?

 

[Real cool]

Are they any good

 

[Real cool]

We have just started stocking sensetime tags I’d like peoples opion on them

 

[crashbox]

Has anyone got the sensetime tags from allflex?

Did Allflex buy out Sabre in the UK, hence Sabre Gates not available?
Do they provide a dairy shedding gate? Can't see one on the website...

 

[Real cool]

We are just taking on a dealership with milkline for the UK,they sell a whole range of equipment.
A lot of the equipment is based around SCR who do the software and equipment on a lot of the gates and heat detection around sensetime.
We can supply shedding gates ,milking equipment all based around SCR

 

[Real cool]

The saver gate was SCR

 

[Scholsey]

We have just started stocking sensetime tags I’d like peoples opion on them

I think the collars are the best system I have used.