How many TFF members would support something like this?

[yellowbelly]

OK, so many if us in here are fed up with the slating agriculture is getting from, what seems like, all sides and the apparent lack of positive stuff in reply from the ADHB, NFU, etc.

How many people on TFF would be prepared to put their money where their mouth is and chip in, say, £100 to get something along the lines of this made about British Agriculture?.....

@bovrill posted this on another thread last night and, as he said, it's a bit too sentimental and Americanised for the UK but I'm sure it's not beyond the wit of somebody on here to be able to come up with something with the same message but more relevant to our situation.

We're all talking the talk but who, in the words of the Dragon's Den, is in?

 

[Robt]

Count me in!,
edit. sadly a one off isnt enough. it will be long forgotten. We need a group doing this 3-4 times per week every week.

 

[caleb]

Count me in as well. It needs a UK version made ? Who`s capable of making a you tube ?

 

[Suffolk Serf]

And me.
Although £100 would use up several years of my marketing budget.

 

[milkloss]

It’s a great ditty for the public no doubt, but, as a farmer I’m watching that thinking ‘jam tomorrow boys’. If we’re not careful big industry will use us as a tool to make them look good. We won’t get paid well for sequestering carbon, retaining moisture or researching and developing tech, someone else will get that. Sure, we’ll feel warm and fuzzy but that doesn’t pay the bills.

 

[caveman]

In view of the fact that the UK population is soon going to have nothing but US chlorinated chicken and hormone enhanced beef to eat, why bother?
Just get behind our brothers and sisters over the pond and regurgitate the op video where ever we can?

 

[melted welly]

Yes!

 

[milkloss]

I would add that I would happily bung a hundred notes in the pot and, if successful, the value of one weaned calf per year. We’ve got to do something.

 

[caveman]

I would add that I would happily bung a hundred notes in the pot and, if successful, the value of one weaned calf per year. We’ve got to do something.

Do you not have levies deducted already?

 

[milkloss]

Do you not have levies deducted already?

Ya, but an independent campaign by farmers for themselves, provided they could actually agree on something, I suspect would be far more successful. Certainly seems flavour of the month for discussion on here!!

Make the efforts of the levy boards inconsequential is probably the only and best way of doing away with them entirely.

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

Coke cola spends 10% of its gross income on advertising its goods, nearly 4 billion in total,
don't think a few hundred pounds will scratch the surface,
but something needs to be done asap by farmers for farmers

 

[n.w]

I would support
I see wild justice [packam et al] can get crowd funding to ban driven game shooting, grouse and pheasant, is there no way support could be got from the industry, including some of the multi national retailers. butchers and those of the general public that actually give a damn

 

[Clive]

These things are a great idea and exactly what we should all be doing and contributing towards as farmers

BUT

ideas are cheap, action costs

costs being both time and money

TFF is not a lobbying organisation, it's simply a platform we provide for you to exchanges knowledge and ideas, we are facilitators nothing more

What I would suggest is that maybe a member (or group of members even better) volunteers (or is elected) to make stuff like this happen. We (TFF) will help and work alongside any such initiative and leverage any network and resources / expertise we can to help and can also help with setting up and promoting stuff like crowd funding etc. What we can't do is it all though, we are not paid to, have no mandate and really don't have any more hours left in our days to be filling in the gaps frustratingly being left by others who do have the cash and resources. Guys like @Chris F and others that make TFF possible have a mortgages to pay and as passionate as they all are about UK agriculture that has to be their priority focus, they are not volunteers and myself included we just dont have enough time to do all these kind of things which in a perfect t world we would all absolutely love to

The infographics we produced are crying put for someone to organizes getting made into gate sized banners or trailer stickers etc and with crowd funding or finding a sponsor for that maybe possible ? , the video above is another excellent example but as @Robt says one is not enough, there needs to be loads of such things being made and done all the time

We are up for it if you guys are ? But be under no illusion this needs people and money to achieve

 

[deleted user 837354]

I would keep it cheap and find someone who does video editing in their spare time. Shorter clips that are high impact of around 30 seconds or so are probably best to begin with. Start up a youtube channel and add videos over time. People will watch them.

 

[___\0/___]

It's well worth following James Redbanks on twitter. He does lots of conservation stuff so has all those guys following what he does. But I notice he gets his views across about the whole of UK at very well.

Some stuck a tweet with his name disappointed with Caitlin Morgan's views he sent her a tweet and has her coming to his farm with Lauren Laverne.

Clive has put it on here before but modern social media is the way forward when done properly.

 

[kfpben]

We need Michael Eavis & family involved. A possibly unique combination of famous, top class, passionate dairy farmers and darlings of the woke left.

 

[Clive]

I would keep it cheap and find someone who does video editing in their spare time. Shorter clips that are high impact of around 30 seconds or so are probably best to begin with. Start up a youtube channel and add videos over time. People will watch them.

We have loads of such contacts, doesn't cost a lot to get quite professional stuff done these days. the team here is behind a lot more ag promotion on other channels (not just digital) that you probably realize. We have the required skill sets and contacts for sure, cash and time is what we lack

 

[Barleycorn]

Not a lot of cattle in that film, although they were making silage. Can't see how an arable farm can be carbon neutral, let alone carbon positive?

 

[yellowbelly]

Not a lot of cattle in that film, although they were making silage. Can't see how an arable farm can be carbon neutral, let alone carbon positive?

Maybe we should all start by finding out where we are exactly. I've just found this and will give it a go tonight...
https://www.fwi.co.uk/business/free-farm-carbon-footprint-tool

Off back to a tractor now.

 

[Clive]

Not a lot of cattle in that film, although they were making silage. Can't see how an arable farm can be carbon neutral, let alone carbon positive?

an arable farm can't (yet) but there is a difference between carbon footprint of various methods - conservation ag approach ( minimal soil disturbance, max diversity and constant ground cover) offer a lot of positive to this climate debate. In the future biological reduction of synthetic input use and perennial crops maybe as well


Grass land / hill farms can achieve nett zero and even then sell offset to intense arable maybe like the root or veg guys - its a complex but exciting and potentially very profitable new area for us all that could turn us from the environmental bad guys in to the heroes here

In the meantime although I aplaud Minnette Batters optimistic commitment to nett zero by 2040 I can't help think they don't really understand what change that will require and certainly haven't told their members that likely means no cultivation or bagged N for starters !