How much should a dealer deduct for fault with machine??

[startinghandle]

If I was going to partex a machine with a fault how much
Should the dealer deduct?
Should he deduct the full price which he would charge out or should he deduct only what it costs him to rectify
This is a hypothetical question
And the machine could be tractor,handler,quad bike or any machine

 

[ACEngineering]

If I was going to partex a machine with a fault how much
Should the dealer deduct?
Should he deduct the full price which he would charge out or should he deduct only what it costs him to rectify
This is a hypothetical question
And the machine could be tractor,handler,quad bike or any machine

Dealer can deduct what ever he likes! You dont have to accept it?‍ keep it repair it and sell it elsewhere?

 

[Dave W]

Unless the machine is scrap/useless it will probably be very little different to regular trade in price.
chances are it'll get exported or moved on within trade

 

[deleted user 837354]

It depends on the nature of the fault, it is has been diagnosed (correctly) and how much it would cost him to fix before he sold it to you?

I'd rather pay the full asking price on the understanding he will fix it before I take delivery of it?

 

[Dave W]

It depends on the nature of the fault, it is has been diagnosed (correctly) and how much it would cost him to fix before he sold it to you?

I'd rather pay the full asking price on the understanding he will fix it before I take delivery of it?

I think he's hypothetically trading the machine in with a fault not buying.
most folk just trade in with fault and deny all knowledge

 

[ACEngineering]

Unless the machine is scrap/useless it will probably be very little different to regular trade in price.
chances are it'll get exported or moved on within trade

But if dealer was planning on retailing it or had a retail sale lined up for it already why wouldnt dealer charge normal price to repair?

Lots of variables here so far too complicated as every sale/trade in deal will be different.

 

[Mc115reed]

I’d probably expect cost of parts deducted but not really labour as they can fix it at there leisure when they’ve nothing to do as a bit of a project ...

 

[ACEngineering]

I think he's hypothetically trading the machine in with a fault not buying.
most folk just trade in with fault and deny all knowledge

This is often the case although some are so blind to any form of mechanical knowledge they actually have no idea of there machines real condition anyway?‍

 

[ACEngineering]

I’d probably expect cost of parts deducted but not really labour as they can fix it at there leisure when they’ve nothing to do as a bit of a project ...

Projects are for enthusiasts and hobbyist not anyone that want to earn a living?‍

 

[Dave W]

But if dealer was planning on retailing it or had a retail sale lined up for it already why wouldnt dealer charge normal price to repair?

Lots of variables here so far too complicated as every sale/trade in deal will be different.

True.
although I was making the assumption that broken meant old so likely be exported.

 

[tweedale terrier]

At the end of the day someone will have to pay to fix it. Fair chance if you trade something with a fault the value will be much much lower than if it were in working order. Simply because it’s difficult to give an accurate cost of repair without stripping the machine down. Dealers will always err on the cautious side.

 

[deleted user 837354]

I think he's hypothetically trading the machine in with a fault not buying.
most folk just trade in with fault and deny all knowledge

Ah I see. Fair enough.

 

[Matt L]

I’d probably expect cost of parts deducted but not really labour as they can fix it at there leisure when they’ve nothing to do as a bit of a project ...

That does not really work in the real world I’m afraid. All technicians need paying, parts need paying, it’s not a bottomless pit of money to sort machines that have been traded in with a fault, be it unknowingly or more unsettlingly when the customer knows the fault!

 

[ACEngineering]

True.
although I was making the assumption that broken meant old so likely be exported.

True.
although I was making the assumption that broken meant old so likely be exported.

Assumption never a good thing?‍ we all do it though?

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

I’d probably expect cost of parts deducted but not really labour as they can fix it at there leisure when they’ve nothing to do as a bit of a project ...

That depends on dealership, as in a lot of big franchised dealerships the sales have to stand on their own, and anything put through the workshop is billed to sales, as the workshop has to stand on its own,

 

[Dave W]

Assumption never a good thing?‍ we all do it though?

Making an assumption on a very vague hypothetical thread. How foolish

 

[Bullring]

Dealer will always factor in that something will need doing if he is going to retail it himself so will probably offer you a lower trade in price than it would be worth if you sold it privately.

 

[njneer]

Perhaps the same as you would expect him to knock off the price to buy if buying said fault?

I’d probably expect cost of parts deducted but not really labour as they can fix it at there leisure when they’ve nothing to do as a bit of a project ...

Not how it works I am afraid .
Every man hour has to be accounted for as the mechanic is paid for every hour and ,bear in mind , every man hour costs the employer 2 1/2 times what he pays him hourly.
The fact they may have some " leisure" time doesn't mean it's free to the company so costs nothing to fix.

 

[Mc115reed]

Perhaps the same as you would expect him to knock off the price to buy if buying said fault?

Not how it works I am afraid .
Every man hour has to be accounted for as the mechanic is paid for every hour and ,bear in mind , every man hour costs the employer 2 1/2 times what he pays him hourly.
The fact they may have some " leisure" time doesn't mean it's free to the company so costs nothing to fix.

Okay every man hour costs the employer 2 1/2 times what he pays...
my local agco dealer pays £14hr... so that’s £35 ... they charge £100hr!!!! You telling me they can’t spare a few hours here and there too work on a trade in with a few faults?????what do they do when there’s nothing to do? Push a brush around the workshop drinking tea and being paid.... might aswell be working on the tractor the sales rep took in that’s f**ked....

 

[startinghandle]

A couple of things I have remembered
since I started this thread....
In 1989 my late father part exchanged
A 10 year old marina van for a new maestro van and after Carrying sheep for most of its life the floor was very rusty to put it politely and Mr B the local Rover dealer allowed £1000 for it
And he ended up scrapping it he did say he should have been more observant
After 11years the maestro van was in similar condition and was sold for£35
The first handler we had was early matbro with torque flight transmission
which failed soon after buying it and I decided to have go at fixing it so with help of Bristol workshop manual I was chuffed when transmission worked fine and overhaul
The original question was something I have been thinking about for sometime and there is no right or wrong answer it all depends how much the dealer wants the deal
I really should get out more!!!