How to control Weed in my orchard

Shadyabs

Member
Livestock Farmer
Hello,

I have an orchard of olive trees, it not actually an orchard it more of a forest soil (in the wild) but I still care for them tilt the soil yearly so it can be considered a growing soil.

One time we had a problem with rye growing too much quantities between the trees so high that it's bothering for harvest, the solution included, tilting soil and RoundUp. Eventually the rye is gone.

Somehow we are now with other weed types, my dad started mowing with a petrol strings.. In the period between fall and spring (early spring) when the stems are filled with water somehow the weeds keeps getting much strong stems and even higher!

I searched the web for weed control but don't find anything special. I am trying to diminish the weed quantities or their Hight so they don't make it hard harvesting and moving around.

Dead heading the weeds is enough ? When should I do it? Isn't early spring cutting a waste of time because the soil and stems filled with water so anyway they are going to grow and faster!

My orchard is nears other orchard so seeds may fly from other to mine.

I really don't know what to do please help

Should I continue trimming the weeds? Should I change *when* to trim? Maybe stop tractor tilting the soil?

Hope you can help me
 

Yale

Member
Livestock Farmer
Hello,

I have an orchard of olive trees, it not actually an orchard it more of a forest soil (in the wild) but I still care for them tilt the soil yearly so it can be considered a growing soil.

One time we had a problem with rye growing too much quantities between the trees so high that it's bothering for harvest, the solution included, tilting soil and RoundUp. Eventually the rye is gone.

Somehow we are now with other weed types, my dad started mowing with a petrol strings.. In the period between fall and spring (early spring) when the stems are filled with water somehow the weeds keeps getting much strong stems and even higher!

I searched the web for weed control but don't find anything special. I am trying to diminish the weed quantities or their Hight so they don't make it hard harvesting and moving around.

Dead heading the weeds is enough ? When should I do it? Isn't early spring cutting a waste of time because the soil and stems filled with water so anyway they are going to grow and faster!

My orchard is nears other orchard so seeds may fly from other to mine.

I really don't know what to do please help

Should I continue trimming the weeds? Should I change *when* to trim? Maybe stop tractor tilting the soil?

Hope you can help me

Just remember what grows there is becauseof the conditions you have created.

To change the flora you have to change how it is managed.
 

carpenter1

Member
Location
devon
Roundup or mowing does my apple orchards.
A picture of the weed may help us, or Latin name for it.
Control of certain weeds can be more successful if timed right.
So you roundup around your apple trees, how far? I suppose less competition.
How do you do it carefully. Would a little on the bark harm the tree?
 

Dave645

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
N Lincs
Ok sounds like you swopped one problem weed for another, the reality is if you use roundup you kill most grass weeds very well and other weeds not so well. Then you end up with the ones that roundup doesn’t kill very well, or self set weeds that persist from seeds.

what you actual need is a plant that will provide ground cover to stop other weeds coming in, that’s not a problem under the olive trees, so low growing etc.

short grass or another native plant that’s not an issue to you. Sow this to stop problem weeds taking over the bare ground.

Like when I do work on the farm clearing weeds, or clearing ground, I sow grass, in areas not going to be cultivated, the grass reduces the weeds that grow back in these areas, and is easily cut, I then use selective spray to control the weeds in the grass if needed and eventually I just end up with grass to keep cutting back now and then.

I removed a soil bank a not so nice neighbours put on the edge of one of our fields it was growing lovely amounts of thistles and rubbish but was impossible to top or spray, so I removed it and used the spoil to make a wider bridge and levelled it I then sowed grass on both areas, the new bridge and the flattened ground both are now clean grass that’s easy to cut or selective spray.
Something always grows on bare soil given time, so my advice is, plant something that your happy to live with before something your not takes over the bare ground you get from using roundup.
Simple low growing native grass would be my first choice as it can easily be cut and killed if needed with roundup and there are a lot of selective Herbicides that you can get to kill weeds if they start to creep in.
 
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Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
The problem with olives is they need a very short stubble for harvesting , as they shake the the trees or beat them and pick the fruit off the floor. years ago they grew cereals under the trees and, or grazed tight with goats. If this is a traditional orchard the trees will be well spaced.
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
So you roundup around your apple trees, how far? I suppose less competition.
How do you do it carefully. Would a little on the bark harm the tree?
Do not go anywhere near young trees with Roundup!
Other than that I have historically sprayed off all the ground under the canopy using a tractor and a single wide band nozzle (done in one pass each side)
More recently I have acquired a wide offset mower so don't need to spray off as much so now do a square around the trunk of the wider spaced trees and a continuos band on the smaller trees.
Try not to get it on the trunks but it doesn't hurt them if it's only a bit. Do it on a still day and don't let it drift. This often means doing it for an hour or so morning and night until the job is finished.
 

Shadyabs

Member
Livestock Farmer
Hi all,

Olive trees are mature ones that are big, about 1-2.5 meters tall. The problem is that weeds make it very difficult to move around whick some of them include spikes and make it even harder to harvest the trees and get to the base of the tree when it's time in the late summer.

The weed type varies significantly, I don't know, It's mixed, spikes, tall thick flowering plant and a bit of rye.. Nothing specific very sorry.

Some articles calls for dead heading the weeds early in spring and some say get them out with the roots. The problem with the second one is that we are talking about 3-5 acres here..

Cutting in spring seems to me waste of time because they are soaked in water so it will take them seconds to come back again, and tilting the soil will make more weed.
What should I do? First Not tilt the soil got it! But how to diminish yearly growing weeds? :cry:

Hope now it's more clear ?
 

Veryfruity

Member
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Roundup at 2% applied in may, after everything ha germinated. Generally once a year keeps it clean. It does help that we get little summer rain and irrigate with trickle.

Careful to not spray trees or shoots from the roots
 

Dave645

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
N Lincs
Hi all,

Olive trees are mature ones that are big, about 1-2.5 meters tall. The problem is that weeds make it very difficult to move around whick some of them include spikes and make it even harder to harvest the trees and get to the base of the tree when it's time in the late summer.

The weed type varies significantly, I don't know, It's mixed, spikes, tall thick flowering plant and a bit of rye.. Nothing specific very sorry.

Some articles calls for dead heading the weeds early in spring and some say get them out with the roots. The problem with the second one is that we are talking about 3-5 acres here..

Cutting in spring seems to me waste of time because they are soaked in water so it will take them seconds to come back again, and tilting the soil will make more weed.
What should I do? First Not tilt the soil got it! But how to diminish yearly growing weeds? :cry:

Hope now it's more clear ?
a picture of the trees and field, may help you get the correct advice if you have any.
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
Hello,

I have an orchard of olive trees, it not actually an orchard it more of a forest soil (in the wild) but I still care for them tilt the soil yearly so it can be considered a growing soil.

One time we had a problem with rye growing too much quantities between the trees so high that it's bothering for harvest, the solution included, tilting soil and RoundUp. Eventually the rye is gone.

Somehow we are now with other weed types, my dad started mowing with a petrol strings.. In the period between fall and spring (early spring) when the stems are filled with water somehow the weeds keeps getting much strong stems and even higher!

I searched the web for weed control but don't find anything special. I am trying to diminish the weed quantities or their Hight so they don't make it hard harvesting and moving around.

Dead heading the weeds is enough ? When should I do it? Isn't early spring cutting a waste of time because the soil and stems filled with water so anyway they are going to grow and faster!

My orchard is nears other orchard so seeds may fly from other to mine.

I really don't know what to do please help

Should I continue trimming the weeds? Should I change *when* to trim? Maybe stop tractor tilting the soil?

Hope you can help me
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