How to establish OSR with very wet ground?

[John]

much chaff?

Yes spring barley straw doesn't chop that well, had hoped to bale it but ground would of been to soft for balers and trailers. Bit of wheat stubble now

 

[Brisel]

Do you find that the Rapid's discs push straw into the slot?

 

[woodylane]

Not had a rotation since 2012.

Surely you must have some kind of rotation

 

[John]

Do you find that the Rapid's discs push straw into the slot?

Not really noticed any

 

[Feldspar]

Had a look at at the Amazone fertiliser manual and they claim OSR will spin to 12m. Would a weigh cell fert spreader be better than a Stocks slug pelleter on the quad? We are drilling the main bit with the Claydon, but this is an experimental area.

 

[DRC]

Question from someone who doesn't grow OSR but grows stubble turnips that seem to grow on concrete after a shower. Why is rape treated with so much reverence . Is it the price of the seed or something .

 

[Andy12345]

Had a look at at the Amazone fertiliser manual and they claim OSR will spin to 12m. Would a weigh cell fert spreader be better than a Stocks slug pelleter on the quad? We are drilling the main bit with the Claydon, but this is an experimental area.

Amazone also claim grass seed will spread to 12 m, it won't I managed about 6 m last Autumn. I operate an all singing all dancing Amazone with GPS switch and weigh cell. I seriously doubt it would be any good at all it needs a 200 KG load as a bare minium before the automatics will work. Its absolutely superb with fert but the grass seed last year was a total nightmare, the on the move calibration wouldn't work at all.

 

[Warp Land Farmer]

Question from someone who doesn't grow OSR but grows stubble turnips that seem to grow on concrete after a shower. Why is rape treated with so much reverence . Is it the price of the seed or something .

Would you ever spin stubble turnips on? Thinking this year run the carrier shallow over the stubbles, spin on then roll rather than set the drill up.

 

[DRC]

Would you ever spin stubble turnips on? Thinking this year run the carrier shallow over the stubbles, spin on then roll rather than set the drill up.

Do it most years. Run through with light cultivator then mix turnips with some fertiliser and spin them on, then roll.
I did just drill with combi this year, as I've bought a disc drill and it was too dry to cultivate .

 

[davidroberts30]

Would you ever spin stubble turnips on? Thinking this year run the carrier shallow over the stubbles, spin on then roll rather than set the drill up.

Yes i do
Get ammount of seed for area ready
Get bag or bags of fert over fert spreader
Cut slot in fert bag and let it run while trickling turnip seed into fert
Set fert for area and sow at 12m
If your anal about it set half rate and go 6m

 

[Warp Land Farmer]

Why do you mix with fert? Does it help spread better? What about spinning them on with the pelleter on the quad?

 

[DRC]

Why do you mix with fert? Does it help spread better? What about spinning them on with the pelleter on the quad?

I've heard of that done as well. It's just a case of getting a setting on spinner of such a low rate , often less than 1.5 kgs acre.
I have worked out a setting that suits two parts fertiliser to one part turnips, so mix say 20kgs of turnips with 40 of nitram , rather than use the whole bag of fertiliser

 

[KJM]

Had a look at at the Amazone fertiliser manual and they claim OSR will spin to 12m. Would a weigh cell fert spreader be better than a Stocks slug pelleter on the quad? We are drilling the main bit with the Claydon, but this is an experimental area.

Could you try the 750A on its shallowest setting? At 6m it wont be much slower and the seed rate will be correct. Do you have a stocks applicator on it? Could put the seed in it and fert in the main hopper and get both jobs done at once.

 

[Feldspar]

Could you try the 750A on its shallowest setting? At 6m it wont be much slower and the seed rate will be correct. Do you have a stocks applicator on it? Could put the seed in it and fert in the main hopper and get both jobs done at once.

That would work well, although hesitant to put fert in drill especially if only a one off. Problem with this though is the ground is wet and so I'm attempting to dream up a light touch application method that still works. Going up and down with tractor and trailed drill is doable (have to go up and down with Terrastar though with same tractor and working width though I suppose) but it's extra wheel traffic. Quad obviously is lighter and 12m fert spreader is wider.

 

[KJM]

You could mix the seed with slug pellets to bulk it up. Might make it easier to calibrate.

 

[Feldspar]

You could mix the seed with slug pellets to bulk it up. Might make it easier to calibrate.

You mean on the quad / fert spinner, or the drill?

 

[davidroberts30]

Why do you mix with fert? Does it help spread better? What about spinning them on with the pelleter on the quad?

Going over with 50 units of N anyway so combining the jobs

 

[KJM]

You mean on the quad / fert spinner, or the drill?

Quad. I have only tried once to patch a small area. It didn't spread much more than a couple of metres and OSR flowed far easier than pellets so was difficult to calibrate. Our pelleter is a bit rubbish though.

 

[tw15]

Had a look at at the Amazone fertiliser manual and they claim OSR will spin to 12m. Would a weigh cell fert spreader be better than a Stocks slug pelleter on the quad? We are drilling the main bit with the Claydon, but this is an experimental area.

Get just as good yields with spinning it on as others do around us that do a lot more tillage and drill methods . Now just home save seed spin it on a light disc and roll . no pre em see what is there and go from there.

 

[Brisel]

Get just as good yields with spinning it on as others do around us that do a lot more tillage and drill methods . Now just home save seed spin it on a light disc and roll . no pre em see what is there and go from there.

Don't forget the slug pellets...