How to prevent manflu...?

Dry Rot

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Livestock Farmer
My old boss used to give me a fork and set me to mucking out the calves' house if I so much as sneezed. He reckoned the ammonia was the best thing for flu. Funny thing, I never even blew my nose back then.

They say lemon juice, sugar, whisky, and hot water is good but I find whisky diluted with more whisky is even better. It won't cure it but does make it more tolerable, even welcomed.
 
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East Mids
And I'm sorry about being insensitive to your grandmothers situation.
I think if the OP is getting bouts of flu every few months, maybe see the doctor and see if your short of something in your diet.
BUT.... is he getting flu? or Manflu?

Even before I went on immunosuppressants I would have several bad bouts a year with headaches/runny nose/sore throat feeling like poo.... and probably should have been in bed. But I've only ever had flu once.

If not proper flu, paracetamol / 'flu' products (DON'TOVERDOSE) , honey drinks to soothe the throat. My OH swears that gargling with TCP at the first sniff (sorry!!:rolleyes:) of a sore throat helps to stop it getting worse. Plenty of fresh fruit and veg and fresh air, keep away from any other humans! But yes it may be worth seeing the quack to ensure that you are not run down for another reason which is making you more prone to infection.
 

Roy_H

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Not sure about the flu jab, oh was really rough for about three weeks after one this year, I was OK this time but have been off the hooks after one before, I think we may well give it a skip next year !
I have the flu jab every year, l might feel a bit crap the following day but its worth it. I only ever missed having the jab one year and oh boy did l regret it!
 

D14

Member
My other half is in the NHS and as mentioned above vitamin c is key to a human being wellness. However pills over the counter are not giving you much at all. Everybody has a vitamin c cut off point where by if you overload your body then effectively it will be discharged via the toilet seat. The only way to ascertain this is to use a vitamin c powder (ascorbic acid) which you then mix with water until dissolved and then drink. What you do is weigh out a tablespoon and drink it then repeat every 4 hours for a 12 hour period. Next day up the dose, but still weighing the amount and then repeat. When you run to the toiler, because you will at some point, that is your bodies required daily level. So then on a daily basis cut back from the toilet run level by perhaps half a tablespoon and then continue to take that and you will find most common ailments become a thing of the past. Generally for an adult you will find the required amount is 25 grams ish if your relatively healthy. Any ailments at the time of starting the trial would see this increased. The longer you take this daily dose the lower the amount you will need so what happens is the cut off point drops the healthier you get. We have been doing this for a long while now and are at around 10 grams per day requirement. The problem is you cannot really do this as a one hit so you take the 25 grams in the morning with breakfast because your body will of used that up within a couple of hours. What we find the easiest thing to do is to mix 3 lots up in bottle and take it to work having it over the working day then don't bother doing any of this at night.

Vitamin c also can help to combat more serious illness's but this is only effective is dosed intravenously and at much higher levels. This won't make you ill toilet wise because its direct into the blood stream so by passing the stomach which is where the overload occurs.

But without doubt a daily dose of proper vitamin c is well worth it but please do not bother with tablets from the chemists as these really are pointless and extremely expensive for the bit of vitamin c you are getting.
 
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Kidds

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Horticulture
My other half is in the NHS and as mentioned above vitamin c is key to a human being wellness. However pills over the counter are not giving you much at all. Everybody has a vitamin c cut off point where by if you overload your body then effectively it will be discharged via the toilet seat. The only way to ascertain this is to use a vitamin c powder (ascorbic acid) which you then mix with water until dissolved and then drink. What you do is weigh out a tablespoon and drink it then repeat every 4 hours for a 12 hour period. Next day up the dose, but still weighing the amount and then repeat. When you run to the toiler, because you will at some point, that is your bodies required daily level. So then on a daily basis cut back from the toilet run level by perhaps half a tablespoon and then continue to take that and you will find most common ailments become a thing of the past. Generally for an adult you will find the required amount is 25 grams ish if your relatively healthy. Any ailments at the time of starting the trial would see this increased.

Vitamin c also can help to combat more serious illness's but this is only effective is dosed intravenously and at much higher levels. This won't make you ill toilet wise because its direct into the blood stream so by passing the stomach which is where the overload occurs.

But without doubt a daily dose of proper vitamin c is well worth it but please do not bother with tablets from the chemists as these really are pointless and extremely expensive for the bit of vitamin c you are getting.
NHS says the upper daily limit is around 1g and you are advising people to take 25g?
I work with Vitamin C and having tasted it I doubt anyone could stomach a tablespoon of it. You would be quite ill.
 

D14

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NHS says the upper daily limit is around 1g and you are advising people to take 25g?
I work with Vitamin C and having tasted it I doubt anyone could stomach a tablespoon of it. You would be quite ill.

The NHS guidelines on vitamin c is extremely dated and goes back to whats the daily level to prevent scurvy. As I said above we take about 10 grams per day now but we have been taking it a while. I think I started off at 35 grams and just in case you have misunderstood that is not 35 grams in one hit. Its the 35 grams over the 24 hours.
I've been out to many dinner parties with GP's and Surgeons now and all I can say is that the government do not want a very healthy population as it does not suit business. The discontentment among doctors is at an all time high and its not money related I can assure you. They get paid extremely well when they get out of the junior doctor status.

Edit: after reading my first post it is not clear actually. The tablespoon should be split over the day. So 35 grams if thats what it weighs, split in to equal amounts and then mixed with water and drank at the 4 hour intervals.
 

D14

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Well I don't take any and I have only had flu once many years ago and rarely have a cold either. :)

Thats another common misconception that vitamin c is just linked to the common cold and flu. This is not correct as its required for all round wellbeing. It helps with all common illness people suffer from because as a population we are not very healthy generally. A healthy body will fight many ailments itself but you have got to have the healthy body in the first place and vitamins including c, are part of that.
 

puppet

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Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
No evidence that Vit C does anything to prevent viral illnesses. Or that any vitamin supplement is necessary at all assuming you eat more than just chocolate buscuits. The only thing that prevents flu is to live on an island with no visitors. The flu jag gives protection to a proportion of people. You won't know how many until next year when we can check what strains were around.
The good news is if you survive it then you will get long immunity. Hence why you often get a few bugs then seem to have a few years clear. Very few older people got swine flu as there must have been some cross-protection from previous infections or their annual jags.
Christmas parties, the modern trend of greetings by hugging and kissing do not help as well as shaking hands. Then again you will look like a grumpy git.
 

Clive

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Excess vitamins pass straight through your body so only thing you risk taking them is wasting your money

The few supplements I take do make a real difference to my energy levels and I rarely get ill despite having 2 snot monster kids !

A healthy body has a stronger immune system so although no direct evidence that vit c stops flu I would bet that someone with poor nutrition was more likely to get ill than someone with good nutrition ..................... a bit like plants really !

I take the Lutin and zexathin after reading some compling evidence to improvements to eye sight and reductions is likelyhoood of dementure in old age and the iron because it's generally a bit lacking in my diet and the fish oil after reading about brain function and joint issues

None of it can do any harm I guess. What I don't need just ends up in the toilet !
 
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banjo

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Location
Back of beyond
My gran was never right after getting a flu jab and never got over it and went down hill. Not saying it was the jab but bit of a coincidence that 3-4 days after having it went downhill.

My father nearly died after it, he was bad for months afterwards. I looked into it and found out it only stops three types of flu and there are over 200 types about in the uk. I had flu myself quite a bit last year and found it was ahsma that needed sorting. Aparantly when your immune system goes down it lets the bad stuff get hold more. It's like when your older and cancer gets in because the immune system is down quite low. Drinking alkahol, smoking drops the immune system and plenty of other things.
My misses is pretty good on this kind of thing and she never seems to get flu,
 

Gong Farmer

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BASIS
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S E Glos
My misses is pretty good on this kind of thing and she never seems to get flu,

Mine too, we must have the same wife.

Couldn't begin to list what I take every day, but touch wood it seems to keep me going. Frequency of colds is less than once a year these days. Yes, most of it's herbal and no, there's no scientific evidence etc but there is my own evidence.

I sometimes think all these severe cures for flu, cancer etc are just ways of getting rid of sick people.

As mentioned above, key with any cure is to take something a soon as you feel the first dry throat, bit of catarrh, whatever. The only cure when you're laid up in bed with it is time.
 

John 1594

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Location
Cambridgeshire
Felt a touch of it coming on this morning. Hot bath, beechams capsules, some horrible thick black sticky cough medicine and a bottle of grouse, followed by an early night. Usually works if you catch it fast enough!!!
 

colhonk

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Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
GROW UP and be a MAN, and just get on with it.....................................................Is what my oh is telling me as I am suffering with my man flu.cough cough hack hack sneeze sneeze, would sympathy help?:inpain:
 

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