How wide is too wide........

early riser

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Location
Up North
Making final plans for new cubicle building featuring wide, tractor scraped passages and sand beds.

Original plan was for 14ft scrape passage between beds and 16ft min against feed barrier (cows not backing onto it).

We farm on a very windy exposed site and I'm slightly concerned about passages drying out too much and becoming slippy if they are too wide, particularly during early spring when cows at grass through day. Granted, sand will help with grip to an extent.

I'm under pressure from planners to reduce the overall width of the building, so would say a 12ft passage be the better option, or am I worrying needlessly?

Cheers
 

Bald Rick

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
Making final plans for new cubicle building featuring wide, tractor scraped passages and sand beds.

Original plan was for 14ft scrape passage between beds and 16ft min against feed barrier (cows not backing onto it).

We farm on a very windy exposed site and I'm slightly concerned about passages drying out too much and becoming slippy if they are too wide, particularly during early spring when cows at grass through day. Granted, sand will help with grip to an extent.

I'm under pressure from planners to reduce the overall width of the building, so would say a 12ft passage be the better option, or am I worrying needlessly?

Cheers

You can narrow the width between cubicles to 3.6m (12') - but allow decent cross passages - but don't compromise on the feed barrier side with 5m (15') a minimum
 
I agree with @Bald Rick, 15’ wide by the feed rail and 12’ between rows of stalls. Common practice here is now 16’ wide cross alleys with big waterers as well. Father in law built a barn very recently just the same and with sand. No problems with traction as cows are bedded on sand. Sounds like a very nice barn to me that your planning. Good luck!
 

coomoo

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Scotland
I’ve a three row cubicle shed 14 feed and 12 passage need auto scrapers going every couple of hours. Got tipping water troughs in cross overs tip them in dry weather but I’m aw Scotland so it’s a never a problem for long.
 
Making final plans for new cubicle building featuring wide, tractor scraped passages and sand beds.

Original plan was for 14ft scrape passage between beds and 16ft min against feed barrier (cows not backing onto it).

We farm on a very windy exposed site and I'm slightly concerned about passages drying out too much and becoming slippy if they are too wide, particularly during early spring when cows at grass through day. Granted, sand will help with grip to an extent.

I'm under pressure from planners to reduce the overall width of the building, so would say a 12ft passage be the better option, or am I worrying needlessly?

Cheers

Personally in the future anything I build the cows won’t back out on to the feed passage lane. They will be single rows arse to arse. That way you can have 2 beds to one feed space and can have slightly narrower passages, mine are 4m (13ft). I would really consider fitting auto scrapers, we scrape 1000 cows out and it’s a mammoth task needing lots of labour which just isn’t available. Make the passages narrower and the money you save on concrete spend on auto scrapers
 

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Written by Richard Halleron from Agriland

The Livestock and Meat Commission (LMC) recently submitted oral evidence to members of the Stormont Agriculture, Environment and Rural Affairs (AERA) committee on the content and potential impact of the Northern Ireland Climate Change Bill (No.2).

This draft legislation was recently introduced to the Northern Ireland Assembly by the Department of Agriculture, Environment and Rural Affairs (DAERA) in conjunction with agriculture minister, Edwin Poots.

“We were accompanied by representatives from a wide range of food industry bodies, including the Northern Ireland Meat Exporters’ Association,the Ulster Farmers’ Union [UFU], Northern...
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