How will the public respond to higher and higher food prices..

melted welly

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Arable Farmer
Location
DD9.
Uk consumer spends between 7% and 13.4% of income on food currently. Average spend is 9.7% of income on food.

Uk consumer spends between 10% and 22% of income on housing currently.

Uk consumer spends between 18% and 24% of income on recreation currently

So roughly speaking, the average consumer spends around double on recreation what they does on food.

source: statista
 

Ffermer Bach

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Livestock Farmer
Hi, Nope farmer Bach., no way is that better value Oats is Oats for my porridge. My basic arithmetic tells me one kilo of oats at 99 pence is cheaper than at 159 pence. I am not suckered in with any kind of organic branding. Morrisons do though have one trick up their sleeve. They place the cheapest oats on the lowest shelf - which entails getting down on my knees in the aisle to pick up a packet, or usually two while I am down there!! .
I used to buy cheaper Lidl value oats, however, I found them to be smaller and didn't seem as good quality, so I am happy to pay a bit extra (and as I am organic, I do try to buy some of my shopping organic to sort of support organic), and I can see they are 60% more expensive.
 

Agrivator

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I used to buy cheaper Lidl value oats, however, I found them to be smaller and didn't seem as good quality, so I am happy to pay a bit extra (and as I am organic, I do try to buy some of my shopping organic to sort of support organic), and I can see they are 60% more expensive.
But you obviously can't see that most organic produce has a higher carbon footprint.
 

Ffermer Bach

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Livestock Farmer
But you obviously can't see that most organic produce has a higher carbon footprint.
how do you figure that out? I would not be convinced. There is a carbon cost to fertliser production, and more fertliser causes more organic matter to be lost from the soil, mind you having said that, direct drilling/min til loses less organic matter from the soil than ploughing (and organic has to plough as you can't use roundup). I would want to see a research paper to be honest (and want to know who was funding the research too!).
 

PSQ

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Arable Farmer
We made Sweet f**k All between 1996 and 2006, because of "market forces"...

... but the public have benefited for decades from EU subsidised cheap food, and all we've had is the media attack with ill informed prejudice.
Don't expect me to shed a tear when the boot is on the other foot, the "market forces" knife cuts both ways.
 
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kiwi pom

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Location
canterbury NZ
Uk consumer spends between 7% and 13.4% of income on food currently. Average spend is 9.7% of income on food.

Uk consumer spends between 10% and 22% of income on housing currently.

Uk consumer spends between 18% and 24% of income on recreation currently

So roughly speaking, the average consumer spends around double on recreation what they does on food.

source: statista
Don't forget the average consumer includes farmers.(y)
I can't be the only one out there who is buying food (and fuel) without ever looking at the price? I couldn't tell you what bread or milk, pasta or porridge oats costs. I have no clue. We buy what we need and that is that.
I nearly always look at the prices, why wouldn't you? I have a fuel compare app on my phone to see which garage in town (that I'm passing) has the cheapest fuel. I compare prices in the supermarket although I don't always buy the cheapest. It's just an extension of comparing insurance companies, electricity providers or anything else you can think of that we buy.
Farmers compare prices for everything why shouldn't other people?
 

stroller

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Arable Farmer
Location
Somerset UK
Hi, Nope farmer Bach., no way is that better value Oats is Oats for my porridge. My basic arithmetic tells me one kilo of oats at 99 pence is cheaper than at 159 pence. I am not suckered in with any kind of organic branding. Morrisons do though have one trick up their sleeve. They place the cheapest oats on the lowest shelf - which entails getting down on my knees in the aisle to pick up a packet, or usually two while I am down there!! .
Morriston porridge oats are best tasting of all the various ones I've tried, much better than the ones with the bloke in a skirt on the front of the packet, I tried asda cheap ones once and they were gopping, even the dogs weren't that keen on them
 

Westin

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Arable Farmer
Price of avocados doubles and they would give zero sh1!s. Why should bread going up 2p bother them?

A classic example of folk not liking something but having no solution. Perhaps the government might step in to directly subsidise grain? I think not.

Cigs, wine, fuel, houses go up every year. No reason for food to be the main brake on inflation.
Hey Tesla, it is exactly the same as the words that i preach Indonesia government everyday for the last 15 years...
Now i tell them, now it is the era of consumer pay up or die of hunger, i as a Farmer could not help as i was poverished by their 30 years long cheap food policy as a Hedge against inflation....
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