How will you survive if there is no food on

ARW

Member
Location
Yorkshire
after a thought provoking conversation with a overweight southern vegan tonight at the pub,
How would you survive if the shelves were empty? not much incoming food being imported, worldwide shortage of crops etc, how would you feed yourselves and the family?

I think we could survive as we have knowledge on killing animals for food and growing simple food for ourselves along with the infrastructure of the old farmhouse to fend for ourselves quite well.

How would you survive?
 

yellowbelly

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
N.Lincs
How would you survive?
Pretty much the same way as you I guess - as would most of us on here. I don't know how many acres you need just to feed the average family but I'd say most of us have enough.

When the industrial revolution happened, industry needed labour. Most of it came from rural areas, where it had been employed in what was not much better than subsistence farming.
Improving agricultural techniques meant that rural areas could feed the towns.

From a political point of view, the job was a good 'un. High earning towns spent their money buying their food from the countryside - the money got shared around.

What cocked the job up was globalisation, when it became possible for high earning towns to start buying their food cheaper from abroad - they stopped sharing their money with us.

As far as I'm concerned the sooner them towns get short of food the better. They might realise how important it is for them to have food producers on their doorstep.
 

kfpben

Member
Location
Mid Hampshire
after a thought provoking conversation with a overweight southern vegan tonight at the pub,
How would you survive if the shelves were empty? not much incoming food being imported, worldwide shortage of crops etc, how would you feed yourselves and the family?

I think we could survive as we have knowledge on killing animals for food and growing simple food for ourselves along with the infrastructure of the old farmhouse to fend for ourselves quite well.

How would you survive?

How did you find an overweight vegan? The only ones I’ve ever seen look scrawny as hell! Can you get fat eating veg?
 

4course

Member
Location
north yorks
after a thought provoking conversation with a overweight southern vegan tonight at the pub,
How would you survive if the shelves were empty? not much incoming food being imported, worldwide shortage of crops etc, how would you feed yourselves and the family?

I think we could survive as we have knowledge on killing animals for food and growing simple food for ourselves along with the infrastructure of the old farmhouse to fend for ourselves quite well.

How would you survive?
eat the vegan
 
I agree that most of us on here would be able to feed ourselves and survive . The reality of it is there are many many people out there that would almost certainly not fair at all well because they have never known anything other than plentiful food supply without a jot of knowledge how to prepare or produce it.
Our country leadership need to acknowledge the fact that our food supply is fragile at the best of times and as shown it only takes a severe weather event to interrupt supplies and within hours the shelves are empty.
Hungry people become angry people and desperate situations cause desperate actions. Think again Mr. Gove , it will be too late once the army has to be deployed to keep the peace, and it will be too late if the countryside is covered with concrete and Tarmac, it will be too late when all the hills are covered in Bracken and the farmers are long gone. Rant over I am off to do some work!.
 
Said townie simply wouldn’t accept that the shelves would be empty, he thinks the government wouldn’t let it happen, obviously has no grasp of reality that if there’s a world shortage of food then there’s no food. He thought we could just grow some more
He’s probably quite close to the truth, we are a relatively wealthy country, we would simply export our starvation by importing food from countries that couldn’t compete on price. Out of sight out of mind for most, others could donate a couple of quid to oxfam to make themselves feel better about the situation.
Prices would rise too which would encourage farmers to spend more increasing production but that’s not an immediate solution we can only work with the seasons/ nature, things take time.

Empty supermarket shelves are just a farmers dream.
 

kfpben

Member
Location
Mid Hampshire
Said townie simply wouldn’t accept that the shelves would be empty, he thinks the government wouldn’t let it happen, obviously has no grasp of reality that if there’s a world shortage of food then there’s no food. He thought we could just grow some more
Three days of drifting snow back in March and we had empty shelves of perishables. Just in time transport and milk tankers being unable to collect from farms led to shortages, not ‘panic buying’.

It doesn’t take much of a shock for the modern supermarket system to come unstuck.
 

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