How will you vote in the next referendum?

What should be the future relationship be between the UK and the EU~?

  • Retract article 50 and remain a full member

    Votes: 5 19.2%
  • Leave the EU and accept the deal offered by the remaining memebers

    Votes: 1 3.8%
  • Leave and make independent arrangements

    Votes: 20 76.9%

  • Total voters
    26

Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
Who knows what will happen in the next 2 years. Changes of governments, natural disasters and maybe the end of the world due to a Trump tweet.
It is possible, in spring 2019, that we will be having a second referendum on our EU membership.
2 of the options in the poll are obvious and although nobody knows what the deal will be, it is clear that the 27 countries will not agree to offer us anything preferential. Therefore the option of the deal should be assumed to be;
Some border and immigration controls
We still pay the same in but have no rebate
We agree to abide to all the EU rules
We have full access to the single market
We have no votes or commissioner in Brussels

In this situation, how would you vote?
 

RobFZS

Member
The deal you're suggesting, is the European Economic Area, where you pay in about half, to participate in the single market, ie money towards customs, erasmus, ehic etc etc, the European parliament has pretty much outsourced its rules and regulations on trade with the likes of UNECE, that is a table we will have a say on, while the eu itself, is busy creating rules to bring the member states closer together, ie insurance and smart motorway legislation.

If that was the option on offer, then yes, but it won't be, we've already been told we will be leaving the lot, but the latter as an interim period.
 

Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
The deal you're suggesting, is the European Economic Area, where you pay in about half, to participate in the single market, ie money towards customs, erasmus, ehic etc etc, the European parliament has pretty much outsourced its rules and regulations on trade with the likes of UNECE, that is a table we will have a say on, while the eu itself, is busy creating rules to bring the member states closer together, ie insurance and smart motorway legislation.

If that was the option on offer, then yes, but it won't be, we've already been told we will be leaving the lot, but the latter as an interim period.

I didn't want to get too hung up on the details of option 2. It is just to indicate the deal which isn't likely to be so awful as to annoy us or good enough for us to be pleased and tempt other countries to leave.
 
I do not pretend to see into the future, but there will not be another referendum in the next few years only because there would be the sort of riots on the streets of Britain that one associates with other countries.

The riots will not be by those who voted to leave last June, but by Rent-a-Mob - the any excuse type who will quite happily accept a quid to go and stir up mayhem on behalf of anybody who gives them the quid.
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

  • 0 %

    Votes: 80 42.3%
  • Up to 25%

    Votes: 66 34.9%
  • 25-50%

    Votes: 30 15.9%
  • 50-75%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 75-100%

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

    Votes: 7 3.7%

Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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