Humic acid

There was talk of using humic acids at groundswell,sounds like good stuff, has anyone tried it? Do u know where to get it from, how much to put on?
 
I'm amazed cattle ever managed to survive before man came along :rolleyes:

+1 to that. Aa hae ma doobts is a phrase in my native dialect that I often apply to such internet sites.

Every body who is "into" these things is only interested in making money.

I think of farm animals in the same way as people. Life can be made more pleasant and being fit and healthy is the preferred option. Going for the ultimate in production is often the road to an early death. The number of elite sports people who die is disproportionate to the number of them as a percentage of the population. I think the same applies to animals, whether ruminants, monogastrics, poultry, fish or whatever.
 

Farming_Lady

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There was talk of using humic acids at groundswell,sounds like good stuff, has anyone tried it? Do u know where to get it from, how much to put on?
What do you need it to do? There are several ways to create your own never-ending supply but it is important to find out what you need it for and if you need it at all.

I am Paris btw and new to this forum, have done a little introduction of myself on the Agri-Matters page if you would a little more information on me.

Have a good day
 

Kiwi Pete

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I take 5ml a week with my kelp tablet, if that's any help..
Very good stuff according to those who use it but I certainly wouldn't go and pay a heap for it, myself, as I have a 35 tons of soft brown reject coal sitting in a heap to add to the compost - which cost about the same as a 20 litre container of liquid humate...:confused:

Application rates don't need to be very high though, from what Big G told me, he uses it every year with the rest of his 'snake oils' :eek::censored:
I prefer to sit on the fence (and my wallet) and just dribble some into the cattles' winter water
 

Dead Rabbits

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Dunno about all that. We do feed humates here. Health problems are typically less here than others in the area, very hard to quantify effectiveness......

It certainly doesn't cost what that does.
 

Kiwi Pete

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Dunno about all that. We do feed humates here. Health problems are typically less here than others in the area, very hard to quantify effectiveness......

It certainly doesn't cost what that does.
Totally agree.
Wonder if it really matters where abouts in the soil/plant/animal cycle you place it, costwise vs benefit wise...

But I know in myself, if I forget to take it then I eventually end up noticing. :(:(
And smoking more cigarettes.....:banghead:

There are huge quantities of humate already present in good soil- which is why I made the statement above about the economy of putting more on, but I can't deny it has a beneficial effect.
Bulking out the compost though, that made good sense to me. Hardest part was getting the truck back out..

Same with the biochar, although a little OT, do you feed any? Cattle here seem to love a little, or kelp, or anything else. Salt too...:rolleyes:
 

Dead Rabbits

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Totally agree.
Wonder if it really matters where abouts in the soil/plant/animal cycle you place it, costwise vs benefit wise...

But I know in myself, if I forget to take it then I eventually end up noticing. :(:(
And smoking more cigarettes.....:banghead:

There are huge quantities of humate already present in good soil- which is why I made the statement above about the economy of putting more on, but I can't deny it has a beneficial effect.
Bulking out the compost though, that made good sense to me. Hardest part was getting the truck back out..

Same with the biochar, although a little OT, do you feed any? Cattle here seem to love a little, or kelp, or anything else. Salt too...:rolleyes:

Yeah ideally the animal will get everything it needs from its environment, no need for fancy supplements. Until then...

Haven't used a bio char or charcoal. I know Joel Salatin was feeding a crude charcoal.(screenings from his wood stove) just because his hogs wanted to eat it. We offer kelp, sea salt and humates free choice as well as force feed in the grain.

When the dry cows are put on the new ground and aren't fed grain, you can hardly keep the stuff in front of them.
 

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