Hybrid Rye

[AKA]

Hi all, growing hybrid rye for the first time, it is to combine not wholecrop, how much nitrogen are others putting on, I’m old school, was thinking 140 units? I would usually put 190ish units on wheat.
Tia

 

[nxy]

Just saying 25% less than wheat is too simple because rye only needs less N because it is better at getting it out of the ground than wheat. Therefore previous crop, soil type, winter rainfall etc all have a bigger effect than for wheat. On proper wheat ground after beans 140 may be way too much but on really light ground you may need to be at or near wheat levels to get the same yield.

 

[robbie]

That's interesting, I've heard some say that rye has been disappointing but it's probably because of what you say above.

I thought rye was better at utilizing N than wheat hence it had a lesser requirement but in actual fact it's just better at scavenging for it but still needs similar amounts for given yields.

 

[Secret Agronomist]

150kg/ha here anymore than that and it falls over.

 

[AKA]

It’s on strong land had about 3t/acre layers muck before sowing. Looks well at present it has tillered very well to the point you cannot see much bare soil at all. Local pig farm grew it last year on two doses of slurry, think 3000gallon/acre twice, looked to yield ok.

 

[Secret Agronomist]

Probably 150kg tops then

 

[nxy]

That's interesting, I've heard some say that rye has been disappointing but it's probably because of what you say above.

I thought rye was better at utilizing N than wheat hence it had a lesser requirement but in actual fact it's just better at scavenging for it but still needs similar amounts for given yields.

When I grew it over here I was told its roots go down much deeper than the other cereals so it can find nutrients that others can't get to.

THE ROOT SYSTEM

THE ROOT SYSTEM

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[Hopespringseternal]

Hi all, growing hybrid rye for the first time, it is to combine not wholecrop, how much nitrogen are others putting on, I’m old school, was thinking 140 units? I would usually put 190ish units on wheat.
Tia

looked after Grain Rye for a few years now, 80-120 kg N is ample depending on soil types. More importantly is the variety grown. Look for a variety that is proven to stand.