Hybrid Winter Barley

[ajd132]

Tried it a few years ago but found it still let BG in, loads of straw but disappointing grain yield. More fert and more expensive seed. Like someone said you are often no better off just spend more money to get the same margin. Now growing malting winter barely.

 

[Davylad]

I’ve been growing hybrid for years now and I can see come brome even coming through despite it being only a sprinkling! Loosing faith in hybrids … going to try more rafaela and as said here it can be home-saved… going with Rye too !

 

[Brisel]

If you want to reduce blackgrass, an early sown winter barley is not the crop for you. A competitive crop only gives a couple of % control and frankly, a high seed rate spring barley after multiple stale seedbeds is a far better bet.

I also found hybrids to have a similar margin to conventional 2 row feeds once the small extra yield just pays for the extra seed, N, fungicide & pgr cost.

 

[mo!]

Can't see us growing hybrid again, seed rate is too low on marginal land and too expensive to push seed rate. Even worse on small acreage when you need to buy 2 and a bit bags. We struggle to get N on early as well, certainly little chance in feb.

 

[Banana Bar]

I’ve grown hybrid barley for years, it’s almost always covered the extra cost of growing over a home saved conventional variety. Therefore in my opinion it’s not worth it, Syngenta love it for obvious reason. Home saved Funky for me delivers the goods albeit not as tall for a BG point of view.

 

[Banana Bar]

I've winter barley volunteers in land that was barley four years ago. Were none in the spring oats last year. Grr. These are six row that appeared in the new c2 two row I grew.

Welcome to 6 row barley. I’ve got rows of barley volunteers 12 m apart in some first wheat that was Bazooka 3 years ago.


BB

 

[Davylad]

Tell me about it… feels slightly embarrassing ! A couple local lads slagging already… keep telling them it will add to weight !!!!

 

[snarling bee]

Mine all flat today after 48mm yesterday. See picture in 'state of your crops' thread

 

[Flat 10]

I have a big percentage flat. Did you do a second pgr?

 

[tr250]

Some of mine is 5 ft high this year. Not sure that's a good thing, unless selling the straw.

So was ours till yesterday

 

[cricketandcrops]

Same until Fridays storm !

 

[snarling bee]

I have a big percentage flat. Did you do a second pgr?

Yes, but only 0.5 Terpal, which was probably applied a bit later than ideal.

 

[Two Tone]

Yes, but only 0.5 Terpal, which was probably applied a bit later than ideal.

How much N did you give it?
I always thought Syngenta were recommending far too much N, which not only made it far more vulnerable to lodging, but also increased disease risk and actually ended up reducing yields!

I put an absolute max of 180KgsN/ha on mine.
Still standing so far.
I only put Modus on a bit of it that was well ahead of the rest. Everything had a full dose of CCC.

 

[snarling bee]

175, but with biosolids 18 mo ago.

 

[teslacoils]

The strange season won't have helped. Dry, then hot and wet. Has been stop start.

 

[Flat 10]

Yes, but only 0.5 Terpal, which was probably applied a bit later than ideal.

I did full ccc plus 0.1 moddus to start and then decided like a prat not to go with canopy at the second timing as so hot dry and crop looked crap then rain came and it went crazy. Actually I lie did the canopy on one particularly fertile field, it made a big difference but still fallen over.

 

[fudge]

I did full ccc plus 0.1 moddus to start and then decided like a prat not to go with canopy at the second timing as so hot dry and crop looked crap then rain came and it went crazy. Actually I lie did the canopy on one particularly fertile field, it made a big difference but still fallen over.

How much N did you apply?

 

[Flat 10]

How much N did you apply?

140ish kgs

 

[Flat 10]

140ish kgs

Some only 120

 

[Flat 10]

140ish kgs

@Two Tone is at 180 why you wowing me?