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If everyone went to that system there’d be no money in it. It’s only the farms that supply the autumn/winter milk that allow spring calving herds to make money.
Can you imagine the milk price if all milk was produced in spring/summer.
I think many of these low input/grazing herds overlook this fact.
Whilst I’m not convinced that system is quite as good as the post you quote portrays , it is for most a very profitable system.
And whilst you are no doubt right that if everyone jumped on the bandwagon it would sink the ship..........:scratchhead:
Just so long as too many don’t go down that road why wouldn’t they.
 

unlacedgecko

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Whilst I’m not convinced that system is quite as good as the post you quote portrays , it is for most a very profitable system.
And whilst you are no doubt right that if everyone jumped on the bandwagon it would sink the ship..........:scratchhead:
Just so long as too many don’t go down that road why wouldn’t they.

Some farmers are achieving the margins I’ve posted.

Autumn milk is paid a premium to encourage production then. Other milk buyers mandate AYR calving. Some farms are not suited to spring block, due to climate or layout.

You pays your money, you take your choice.
 

DeeGee

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Some farmers are achieving the margins I’ve posted.

Autumn milk is paid a premium to encourage production then. Other milk buyers mandate AYR calving. Some farms are not suited to spring block, due to climate or layout.

You pays your money, you take your choice.

Do you really mean ‘profit’ per cow or margin per cow over feed?
You don’t need me to tell you that there is a massive difference between margin per cow and actual bottom line nett farm profit, so can you just clarify your statement please?
 

Cowcorn

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Do you really mean ‘profit’ per cow or margin per cow over feed?
You don’t need me to tell you that there is a massive difference between margin per cow and actual bottom line nett farm profit, so can you just clarify your statement please?
Its profit per cow on a spring grazing system where grass is the main feed and meal is kept under 500 kg per annum. It works well when the weather plays ball and you have the right sort of land !!! Last year tested the system when the grass refused to grow and bought in c feed screwed the budget and halved the profits.
 

unlacedgecko

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Do you really mean ‘profit’ per cow or margin per cow over feed?
You don’t need me to tell you that there is a massive difference between margin per cow and actual bottom line nett farm profit, so can you just clarify your statement please?

Search for "graise consultancy" on Facebook.
 

unlacedgecko

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Its profit per cow on a spring grazing system where grass is the main feed and meal is kept under 500 kg per annum. It works well when the weather plays ball and you have the right sort of land !!! Last year tested the system when the grass refused to grow and bought in c feed screwed the budget and halved the profits.

£500/cow is still pretty good!
 

Henarar

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Somerset
Its profit per cow on a spring grazing system where grass is the main feed and meal is kept under 500 kg per annum. It works well when the weather plays ball and you have the right sort of land !!! Last year tested the system when the grass refused to grow and bought in c feed screwed the budget and halved the profits.
So you chaps need 20 odd cows to make a living
 

Hooby Farmer

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roe valley
I wish :ROFLMAO:. Lived in Namibia back and forth, and bought a little house. Then the recession......3 builders went bust almost put our lights out. Dad took a stroke in the middle of it. We went to the bank took out an eye watering loan nearly 400k. Had to sell property at 25% of what it cost to buy to nake sure everyone was paid on top of borrowing money. I'm now 30 loan paid off in November and I'm exhausted.
 

2wheels

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I wish :ROFLMAO:. Lived in Namibia back and forth, and bought a little house. Then the recession......3 builders went bust almost put our lights out. Dad took a stroke in the middle of it. We went to the bank took out an eye watering loan nearly 400k. Had to sell property at 25% of what it cost to buy to nake sure everyone was paid on top of borrowing money. I'm now 30 loan paid off in November and I'm exhausted.
ouch. hope things are improving for you now.
 

fred.950

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Dorset/Wiltshire
I remember talking to possibly the strongest man I ever knew, a friend of mine that was older than me. He said one of the strongest men he ever knew and worked with was my grandfather.
It's easy to make your Dad out to be more than maybe he really was, rose tinted glasses, idolisation etc, but my Dad was bloody strong. He never stopped, I'm there sweating buckets and gasping for breath and he just kept going. I'm not talking about me as a kid but in my 30's and doing my best to make sure nobody can keep up with me, I still couldn't keep up with Dad (and no doubt he was nearly killing himself making sure I couldn't).
I'd like to think a bit has rubbed off on me, I'd also like to think my lad will look up to me in the same way ( I think he probably does). Funny thing is that I now work for him at times and by God it nearly kills me making sure I put on a good show. Him too of course trying to keep up. :D
One of the saddest days of my life when I realised my father had grown old and frail and I was actually stronger than him! (n)
 

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