I told you so !

[Bald Rick]

BBC Wales had a theoretical weather forecast for a July day in 2050 last night. 32 degrees, and glorious sunshine...... Hmmm......scorching hot harvest weather with no drying costs...
Nice.

yeah … but not so nice if it hasn’t rained since February

Although I did enjoy the summer of ‘76, the age of Hot Pants

 

[Goweresque]

At 53, I hope I will live long enough to prove that all this stupid re-wilding, stewardship, tree planting,vegan nonsense will leave people hungry, then I will be able to say "I told you so"

Trouble is no one in power will listen to you even if you are proved right. They'll be too busy listening to the same sort of people who are currently selling the 'climate change' b*ll*cks, except in the future they'll have a new 'solution' to all our woes, one that coincidentally makes them very important, and very rich.........

 

[serf]

and will continue to be controlled
The method just change to involve less cash and more whip

Can't see how they will carry on controlling if there is not enough carrot, folk will say sod it not worth the hassle!

 

[daveydiesel1]

I say food couldnt be scarce enough, good on them if they pay to take it out of production aslong as its not mandatory as there will be enough plonkers and lazy gits out there that will do it meanwhile the price of produce will go up farmin is nothin more than workin for the future and the hope of better days to come so might aswel keep the head up even if ur arse is trailing on the ground

 

[Levelsman]

The government has to ultimately decide whether it wants food produced or not - everything else is blah, blah, blah!

 

[thorpe]

The government has to ultimately decide whether it wants food produced or not - everything else is blah, blah, blah!

well said said greta.

 

[Tarw Coch]

The government has to ultimately decide whether it wants food produced or not - everything else is blah, blah, blah!

They seem rather keen on trade deals to source it from around the globe at the moment, it will be interesting times if that policy is put under pressure at some point in the future

 

[glasshouse]

I've always said that would happen, if food became a National Security issue for some reason, whatever that might be.

Basically we're allowed to wallow around in the mud and do our own thing scratching a living while the times are good, but if the SHTF and food prices are through the roof then we'll be nationalised faster than you can say Arthur Scargill. We are never going to be allowed to make serious money out of farming, on a scale of the sort of return on capital that the banks and other financial institutions make (for example).

Currently people spend c. 8-9% of their income on food, if that say doubled to 15-20% (which would only take you back to how things were in the 1960s) then we would face price and production controls for sure. Maybe not pure nationalisation, as even the government knows that turning farms into a version of your local council's public works department would mean half the production at 3 times the cost. But some sort of similar control system as was implemented during the war would be introduced overnight. Farms are never going to be allowed to be gold mines.

Farms were gold mines in ww2

 

[glasshouse]

The 1947 Agriculture Act was similar,in that it was dressed up as support when in reality at the time ,non was needed.Food was still rationed and desperately short and farmers could have extracted almost any prices they wanted.For a good few years after the war,it was infact price control. Of course the farmers at the time had not forgotten the price crashes in the 1920s,and feared it would happen again.......................I think as we head further into the 2020s,this time could be a whole load different.

The 1947 act was about castrating the landlords and giving security to tenants to allow them to invest to increase production.

 

[gatepost]

Can't see how they will carry on controlling if there is not enough carrot, folk will say sod it not worth the hassle!

That is exactly what the RPA inspector was telling me last week, (not on my place) head honchos have fluffed this but don't think Gov has caught up, ELMS (they are not allowed to call it that only the long version, who would name an environmental scheme after a dead tree) won't pay enough, and good land farmers will do their own thing.

 

[glasshouse]

That is exactly what the RPA inspector was telling me last week, (not on my place) head honchos have fluffed this but don't think Gov has caught up, ELMS (they are not allowed to call it that only the long version, who would name an environmental scheme after a dead tree) won't pay enough, and good land farmers will do their own thing.

1922 was the agricultural meltdown in england
All set now for the centenary repeat

 

[czechmate]

yeah … but not so nice if it hasn’t rained since February

Although I did enjoy the summer of ‘76, the age of Hot Pants

I think Hot Pants was a bit before that. I remember 76 as the year of No Bra’s

 

[Tarw Coch]

I think Hot Pants was a bit before that. I remember 76 as the year of No Bra’s

I remember 76 as the summer of throwing mud pies at passing cars.................I think I may have been born 10 years too late

 

[czechmate]

I remember 76 as the summer of throwing mud pies at passing cars.................I think I may have been born 10 years too late

Maybe not, not the best being a 15 year old lad with your tongue always on the pavement

 

[C.J]

Isn't it amazing 45 years of global warming since , and yet 1976 is still remembered as the hottest summer ever

 

[glasshouse]

76 was a great year, dad drove combine and i carted it all at 13 as the men were still on holiday
95 was a fantastic year, never to be repeated

 

[Farmer Roy]

Isn't it amazing 45 years of global warming since , and yet 1976 is still remembered as the hottest summer ever

dunno about 1978, it was just another year

the summers (& winters ) of 2017, 2018, & 2019 here were each consecutively the hottest ( & driest ) years on record

 

[Farmer Roy]

 

[nxy]

I say food couldnt be scarce enough, good on them if they pay to take it out of production aslong as its not mandatory as there will be enough plonkers and lazy gits out there that will do it meanwhile the price of produce will go up farmin is nothin more than workin for the future and the hope of better days to come so might aswel keep the head up even if ur arse is trailing on the ground

One of my grandfather's favourite sayings was "if you have 12 eggs and 12 customers you need to break an egg."

 

[Bald Rick]

I think Hot Pants was a bit before that. I remember 76 as the year of No Bra’s

According to Wiki, by ‘76 Hot Pants were associated with the porn industry

I’m saying nothing further ….