IAE is this worth money

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
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Montgomeryshire
our poldenvale is best for drafting if youre not totally clear on what youre sorting, seperate ' scissors' / folding stop gate at the end of the race and lighweight drafting gate after it
can disrupt flow a bit but depends what your doing and how fast runners they are and how fast (or slow :cautious:) you are ................. as you get older :(

I do similar with my Poldenvale ‘scissors’ when I have the weigh crate sat on the front of the RAPPA yard to sort hoggets.

When drafting lambs off at weaning I’ve never found anything faster than the RAPPA race itself, with dogs pushing up the whole mob from behind. Can fair fly through the job, with the odd (Charollais) lamb think that going over the gate would be easier than turning their head. Not too old/slow to stop them yet though.
 

Y Fan Wen

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Location
N W Snowdonia
but them iae stop/drafting gates are a bit clumsy imo heavy so slower reacting. i ve had a set of it for donkeys yrs bought it in a job lot of stuff off farm , the race side on mine were not high enoghh for us but easy fix is to add a couple of short lenghts of square tube that will just fit snuggly over the two legs longer than them to a length that suits you and a tech screw or 2 to hold in place.]our side panels are i think 42 inches high now .
i cut the sides of the stop gate bit at the front of the drafting gate and now use it just for drafting not stopping for lambs that are let out of the weigh crate a bungy cord holds it gently one way
Interesting. I wasn't happy about the combined draft/stop gate when I was looking at it in the dealer's yard but trying it out found it much easier than the separate gates I was used to.
Someone on here posted a photo of the gate he had made to shove them up tight from behind when you are dosing, tagging etc.. I though that was very neat.
 

Al R

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Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
anyone got one from MacVeigh and parker? ive used them before for stuff and delviery would hopefully be a damn site cheaper.

this is their race, much the same really, just waiting on a price

That’s the IAE economy race which I paid £510 for in 2018?
 
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Highland Mule

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anyone got one from MacVeigh and parker? ive used them before for stuff and delviery would hopefully be a damn site cheaper.

this is their race, much the same really, just waiting on a price

Wouldn’t you be better having a chat with Allan’s of Gillock and then having a trip over to Inverness to collect? I’m sure you’d fit it in the back of a truck, and you’d probably manage to get it for a decent bit under list of you ask nicely.

edit- scratch that, you’re in Barra. Maybe not…
 

Bury the Trash

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Interesting. I wasn't happy about the combined draft/stop gate when I was looking at it in the dealer's yard but trying it out found it much easier than the separate gates I was used to.
Someone on here posted a photo of the gate he had made to shove them up tight from behind when you are dosing, tagging etc.. I though that was very neat.
I found the t piece or stop part of it make them more cumbersome like it needs a wider 'throw' and heavier built so that whipping motion of the whole gate was slowed up thats not so good imo on a good quick successful drafting (when they're coming at you approaching 45 mile an hour :oops:)
on one race we also have some foam wrapped around the leading edge of the gate because some would really whack their nose on it at times if theyre too quick :ROFLMAO:
 
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andyt87

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Livestock Farmer
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Glamorgan
Bringing this thread back from the dead a bit, but could do with a simple race and noticed the one linked above at McVeighParker which is basically the iae economy ones.

Is it decent enough or would I be better going with a Fowrass one for a bit more like for like. If the quality is light and day in favour of Fowrass I'd get theres and maybe spec 3 way shedder, anti backing U frame and maybe swap a sheeted hurdle for one with a door and hanging post for clippers?
 

Al R

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Livestock Farmer
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West Wales
Bringing this thread back from the dead a bit, but could do with a simple race and noticed the one linked above at McVeighParker which is basically the iae economy ones.

Is it decent enough or would I be better going with a Fowrass one for a bit more like for like. If the quality is light and day in favour of Fowrass I'd get theres and maybe spec 3 way shedder, anti backing U frame and maybe swap a sheeted hurdle for one with a door and hanging post for clippers?
I have an IAE economy at 1 of the farm basically just for dividing groups - all dosing and bolusing is done in the Rappa DF race - quite often on the front of the divider.. the guillotine gate has fallen apart, the sides have all buckled on the couplings etc, it is standard IAE Sh!te unlike the HD kit they do.. we bought it because for £500 and 10 hurdles you had some sort of pen..
 

andyt87

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Glamorgan
I have an IAE economy at 1 of the farm basically just for dividing groups - all dosing and bolusing is done in the Rappa DF race - quite often on the front of the divider.. the guillotine gate has fallen apart, the sides have all buckled on the couplings etc, it is standard IAE Sh!te unlike the HD kit they do.. we bought it because for £500 and 10 hurdles you had some sort of pen..

Cheers, that's what I was worried about in terms of quality. Its gone up a bit since anyway, but I'd rather have something that lasts even at 15-20% more initial cost.

Crappy hurdle for a lambing pen is one thing but if the quality is the same in a race it's not worth it
 

spark_28

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Location
Western isles
Glad I never spunked the cash on this now. Wouldn't last a second with the blackface.

My uncle has race (might not be this one) and it's not lasted long. Steels bursting in it also find it a bit on the low side for what I need
 

ladycrofter

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Highland
We have an older IAE race like that with gate and shedder, many years now, and it's taken massive abuse, dosing blackies, etc. Not a dent in it. Just shows they're cutting costs now with cheaper spec steel. You can't weld tissue paper.
Also of note the old IAE round post hurdles are still going strong. The newer square post ones are crap and many loops snapped off. 🤬
We would probably buy a prattley etc of we were just starting out. So much more versatile.
 

andyt87

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Glamorgan
We have an older IAE race like that with gate and shedder, many years now, and it's taken massive abuse, dosing blackies, etc. Not a dent in it. Just shows they're cutting costs now with cheaper spec steel. You can't weld tissue paper.
Also of note the old IAE round post hurdles are still going strong. The newer square post ones are crap and many loops snapped off. 🤬
We would probably buy a prattley etc of we were just starting out. So much more versatile.

If it was my money I'd go Prattley as well but it isn't. Think I might go Fowrass tbh. They seem to get ok reviews on this thread

https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/fowrass-concertina-sheep-hurdle.308206/page-11
 

Tomo23

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Livestock Farmer
I've had mine a couple of months now. Not overly impressed. They bend quite easy if your sheep are a bit head strong and crowd in a corner. On anything other than a flat piece of ground the pins have a habit of jumping out the bottom loop. Very annoying. Either they want longer pins, which might dig in the ground, or the bottom loop want welding higher. They're not oval like the rappas so there's bugger all movement in them.

If it was my money I'd go Prattley as well but it isn't. Think I might go Fowrass tbh. They seem to get ok reviews on this thread

https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/fowrass-concertina-sheep-hurdle.308206/page-11
 

David.

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Mixed Farmer
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J11 M40
My experience is all that you want is the shedding gate.
Few posts and sheets of wriggly tin erected to form a permanent race in sheep fields, for negligible money, then just take shedding gate and hurdles with you..
Even then, you will probably soon add a permanent forcing pen too.
 

andyt87

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Glamorgan
I've had mine a couple of months now. Not overly impressed. They bend quite easy if your sheep are a bit head strong and crowd in a corner. On anything other than a flat piece of ground the pins have a habit of jumping out the bottom loop. Very annoying. Either they want longer pins, which might dig in the ground, or the bottom loop want welding higher. They're not oval like the rappas so there's bugger all movement in them.

Is that the hurdles only or the sheeted race panels? Thinking just get the sheeted race with 3 way shedding gate as we've got plenty other hurdles around for forcing pen and back/gather pen is a cattle shed anyway and central to all the grazing
 

Estate fencing.

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I was pricing up making a new race the other day compare to buying and it was very similar money, except the made one would be twice the thickness steel and I know if the weld did start to break I could weld them back up, this iae can’t be welded on farm.
 

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