Ideal time for all farmers with any common sense to tell farm assurance schemes to go to hell.

[Bald Rick]

If a group of supplying dairy farmers to a dairy all said no red tractor now then what would the dairy do?

Go without milk?

Dairy farms probably have the most hassle and cost with it but have the best chance of grouping together to get it abolished.

@Bald Rick

RT is always on the agenda at our producer meetings.
This year there was not a squeak (in common with other years too) when it was covered off.

There are probably a number of reasons:

1) We are not directly billed for RT & "beef" assurance is automatically thrown in if you are compliant
2) It is a direct requirement of any dairy contract (& Arlagaarden goes MUCH further than RT in any case to the point where one farmer I know had to dispose of two DB tractors that wouldn't start as an "eyesore") and we would be in breach. I take the point that if we all banded together there would be little a processor could do but when have farmers ever co-operated to that extent? Divide & rule
3) It's just paperwork. We are govern by Food Standards Agency/Dairy inspection in any case so most of us will have high hygiene standards in any case. There are lots of petty things around RT but it's not difficult to suck up
4) Some measure of standardisation is not, in essence, a bad thing. RT just needs to "smell the coffee" and row back on the pettiness.

BTW, I am not an RT apologist in any way, shape or form but I have far greater things to worry about than a few hours filling in paperwork & talking to an inspector

 

[MrNoo]

You are about to cost a haulier a days work, your merchant a 3 hour headache. It’s coming back to the farm with a big bill…and if it doesn’t your merchant might have been lucky enough to have a non assured slot to tip it off. I’ll bet you £100 it doesn’t end up in a flour mill and you say who the merchant is….in fact make it £500!

I think you are very much mistaken, more unassured becomes assured after collection that you would believe.
No different to malting spec mysteriously turning to feed spec yet still being tipped in the malting bin but for feed price. But of course that doesnt happen does it?? A large farmer around here had it occur with a very large tonnage of SB, took them to court but they settled out of court.
Having been unassured last season I can assure you the grain trade is bent, it only focuses on ££££££'s

 

[matthew]

More to it than she has told you!

Either they got kicked out for a major non compliance or they did not bother to send in the conformation within the 28 days!

I doubt that. Hard working family business.

The only 'non compliance' was the paperwork associated with the dog worming regime. I suspect that the farmer in question is filling in the forms, but hadn't realised that after the visit / inspection / interogation, his assurance was suspended until such time as the boxes were duly ticked.

Meanwhile, his window for selling cattle after a TB test is diminishing by the hour.

Much like @Clive and the mouse dropping(s)

 

[gone up the hill]

I doubt that. Hard working family business.

The only 'non compliance' was the paperwork associated with the dog worming regime. I suspect that the farmer in question is filling in the forms, but hadn't realised that after the visit / inspection / interogation, his assurance was suspended until such time as the boxes were duly ticked.

Meanwhile, his window for selling cattle after a TB test is diminishing by the hour.

Much like @Clive and the mouse dropping(s)

They do not suspend you for 28 days unless its a very serious issue!

Of course the inspector may have ticked the wrong box and accidently suspended them.

 

[thorpe]

You are about to cost a haulier a days work, your merchant a 3 hour headache. It’s coming back to the farm with a big bill…and if it doesn’t your merchant might have been lucky enough to have a non assured slot to tip it off. I’ll bet you £100 it doesn’t end up in a flour mill and you say who the merchant is….in fact make it £500!

well youve just about confirmed your trade, thanks, as i thought a leech!

 

[VIP]

well youve just about confirmed your trade, thanks, as i thought a leech!

I pay you, you half-whit You’ll get no where treating your customers like that.

 

[VIP]

I think you are very much mistaken, more unassured becomes assured after collection that you would believe.
No different to malting spec mysteriously turning to feed spec yet still being tipped in the malting bin but for feed price. But of course that doesnt happen does it?? A large farmer around here had it occur with a very large tonnage of SB, took them to court but they settled out of court.
Having been unassured last season I can assure you the grain trade is bent, it only focuses on ££££££'s

Yet you won’t mention any names? You could end RT tomorrow by putting some meat on the bones, yet you continue to post second hand gossip. Say something and stand behind it with facts or wind your neck in.

 

[thorpe]

careful, do you only buy not sell i may be one of your customers!

 

[VIP]

careful, do you only buy not sell i may be one of your customers!

Christ I hope not‍♂, you sound like a right Pratt.

 

[thorpe]

Christ I hope not‍♂, you sound like a right Pratt.

and you a selfrichous leech!

 

[Barleymow]

careful, do you only buy not sell i may be one of your customers!

Pity we can't find out who this newish member works for ,I'll happily name a merchant if it get stitched up

 

[Bald Rick]

Boys ..... Play nicely please as it would be a shame to have to lock the thread

Ta

 

[MrNoo]

Yet you won’t mention any names? You could end RT tomorrow by putting some meat on the bones, yet you continue to post second hand gossip. Say something and stand behind it with facts or wind your neck in.

Really? Pathetic, I would still like to sell my unassured crops.
My neck will stay where it is thanks.
Typical trade comment.

 

[Grass And Grain]

Yet you won’t mention any names? You could end RT tomorrow by putting some meat on the bones, yet you continue to post second hand gossip. Say something and stand behind it with facts or wind your neck in.

Suspect MrNoo doesn't want to get the merchant into bother. It would be the merchant who would get ended.

 

[VIP]

Suspect MrNoo doesn't want to get the merchant into bother. It would be the merchant who would get ended.

Yet he shouts about how corrupt the industry is. Not a single person can talk facts on this, yet everyone has an anecdotal tale to tell….usually from a lorry driver or bloke down the pub.

 

[VIP]

Pity we can't find out who this newish member works for ,I'll happily name a merchant if it get stitched up

I say stuff you don’t agree with and you want to get me sacked! Pathetic.

 

[Jackov Altraids]

I say stuff you don’t agree with and you want to get me sacked! Pathetic.

Said the Very Impetuous pr*ck

 

[VIP]

Said the Very Impetuous pr*ck

Do you kiss your sister with that mouth?

 

[Bald Rick]

Boys ..... Play nicely please as it would be a shame to have to lock the thread

Ta

Seems that fair warning was ignored