Ideal time for all farmers with any common sense to tell farm assurance schemes to go to hell.

[MrNoo]

Not another one! Just leave! Why do you have to come on here with some “Braveheart” speech! Just don’t join RT. Market your products through channels that don’t require RT and everyone is happy. You lot remind me of school yard fights- two kids standing in front of each other shouting “come on then”. No one on this forum cares if you are RT or not, so stop wasting your time pontificating on here and crack on.

Not that simple is it. I left last season, my grains were worth £15-20/t less and yet they still pretty much ended up in mills and malt. Only the middle man made the £15-20/t difference. I cannot afford to carry on like that, I may as well just pack in cropping and find something else to do with the land

 

[Tarw Coch]

Do what we did, get out of cows.






I’ll get me coat.

You’re not alone, there’s less than a third of the numbers of dairy farmers today than the days pre RT.
Obviously they’re not the only reason but they will be a factor in quite a few.

 

[VIP]

It is one of the most important problems facing our industry. If you don't want to participate, then scroll on to another thread..............

I am participating….I just have a different opinion. As I said….stay or leave…do something, stop just talking about it.

 

[VIP]

Not that simple is it. I left last season, my grains were worth £15-20/t less and yet they still pretty much ended up in mills and malt. Only the middle man made the £15-20/t difference. I cannot afford to carry on like that, I may as well just pack in cropping and find something else to do with the land

You said Acorn Arable did your non assured wheat, yet it ended up at assured homes….is that correct?

 

[roscoe erf]

Get the farmers together and off we go.

no they are all good at having an opinion on the events in Ukraine look through the numerous threads but won't fight their own battles nearer to home

 

[MrNoo]

You said Acorn Arable did your non assured wheat, yet it ended up at assured homes….is that correct?

They sell it on to other traders/Co's. I know for a fact that some certainly did end up in a malt pile, as I stated such on here and my trader got a very irate phone call 9am in the morn and I was asked/told to remove my posts off the forum.
Milling wheat certainly did all go to Liverpool but I sold that a different way not through Acorn

 

[SilliamWhale]

They sell it on to other traders/Co's. I know for a fact that some certainly did end up in a malt pile, as I stated such on here and my trader got a very irate phone call 9am in the morn and I was asked/told to remove my posts off the forum.
Milling wheat certainly did all go to Liverpool but I sold that a different way not through Acorn

If this is the case then its a very good test demonstration for trading standards and to demonstrate to the NFU and AHDB what RT is really doing to farmers.

 

[VIP]

So did Acorn Arable sell it on as assured? Is that what happened?

 

[MrNoo]

So did Acorn Arable sell it on as assured? Is that what happened?

Sell what, SB ?? I believe they moved it on as feed to another Co.
The winter wheat I sold to elsewhere.
3 loads of milling spec Spring wheat went to AD plant through Acorn.

 

[MrNoo]

The other Co “blended” it away with malt SB

 

[SilliamWhale]

I'm wondering if we can publish some sort of representation to all the mills and buyers etc by collecting verified digital signatures from farmers so that the buyers can feed back to the AIC that farmers object strongly to the stranglehold RT is placing on the market? Any ideas on doing this? - Not a petition as such but a collective representation of how we cannot countenance double standards.

At the end of the day the decisions on RT are made by a select few who shuffle from committee room to committee room at no cost to them. They won't move until budged

It will collapse eventually but we need to keep removing bits away, and it will be no thanks to that farm union when it does.

 

[redsloe]

Red tractor for cereals is a complete load of rubbish but it really isn’t stress enducing.

Probably not. You can fit in completing the bullsh!t records during your 5month winter break. Others may have cattle to look after as well as extra compliances to do, many of them costing more money.

 

[DrWazzock]

Maybe just get out of farming. Everybody who isn’t directly involved with our industry who aren’t actually farmers just stand around putting the boot in. Government, pressure groups, vegans, animal rights, RT, EA, DEFRA, RPA, suppliers, dealers, merchants. All raising their prices and making our jobs more difficult while we absorb the costs and take the biggest part of the risk.
The only thing you can be certain about is they will never reduce their fees or charges or do a damn thing to ease the load on us so somebody tell me why I should bother taking this.
And when fertiliser reaches £1000/t and I’m gambling on wheat prices staying high enough to cover the costs, who helps us? Nobody. Supply issues are already a looming national emergency in my view but the politicians are busy worsening that situation making futile political gestures on the world stage. Requisition the fertiliser plants now if you really back U.K. farming. If you aren’t going to do that then admit you are all wind and no action.

 

[MrNoo]

I'm wondering if we can publish some sort of representation to all the mills and buyers etc by collecting verified digital signatures from farmers so that the buyers can feed back to the AIC that farmers object strongly to the stranglehold RT is placing on the market? Any ideas on doing this? - Not a petition as such but a collective representation of how we cannot countenance double standards.

At the end of the day the decisions on RT are made by a select few who shuffle from committee room to committee room at no cost to them. They won't move until budged

It will collapse eventually but we need to keep removing bits away, and it will be no thanks to that farm union when it does.

Trouble being RT, AHDB, NFU and AIC are all very cosy indeed, they all make very good £££‘S out of us farmers. Why would they want to rock the boat. That Union is balls deep in support of its baby RT

 

[DrWazzock]

RT is just the tip of a chain that’s rotten to the core. It’s the manifestation of the contempt we are held in by our customers. Agricultural commodity prices have been screwed down globally for decades keeping our businesses running on subsistence levels. That really the suits the global commodity traders and retailers.
We are only now seeing truer market values as the cheap over production ends. Let’s hope the traders and retailers margins are crunched like ours have been crunched for years. I suppose juggling input prices and output prices won’t really be anything new for us, but with angry members of the public soon to be taking a massive hike in living costs let’s see how the rest of the chain and the glib politicians cope with the floodwater of rising costs leaving their heads gasping for the last breath of profit as those costs close the gap to the ceiling.

 

[Flat 10]

Red tractor for cereals is a complete load of rubbish but it really isn’t stress enducing.

rubbish. We don’t all have central storage. You have surpassed yourself this morning.

 

[Flat 10]

Not another one! Just leave! Why do you have to come on here with some “Braveheart” speech! Just don’t join RT. Market your products through channels that don’t require RT and everyone is happy. You lot remind me of school yard fights- two kids standing in front of each other shouting “come on then”. No one on this forum cares if you are RT or not, so stop wasting your time pontificating on here and crack on.

More horse sh!t. Dairy farmers and cereal farmers don’t have a choice.

 

[Jimdog1]

I would love to walk away from the 3 assurance schemes I belong to. Sheep would be the most straightforward but as I am one of the "scum" with a supermarket contract it would require a rethink on lamb marketing on my part, that said, I think that day is getting close. Eggs, as with milk, are nigh on impossible to market in any volume without belonging to an assurance scheme.☹

 

[Bury the Trash]

Not another one! Just leave! Why do you have to come on here with some “Braveheart” speech! Just don’t join RT. Market your products through channels that don’t require RT and everyone is happy. You lot remind me of school yard fights- two kids standing in front of each other shouting “come on then”. No one on this forum cares if you are RT or not, so stop wasting your time pontificating on here and crack on.

You are very wrong ,which a bit hard to fathom really because it seems you don't know any or many farmers at all, so why speak of something you have no knowledge of ? hmmm.


Yours is the time that is wasted posting here.

 

[7610 super q]

I just don't know why after all these years the same inaccurate posts keep coming up over and over again. For the last time........

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