Idiots guide to Milwaukee.....

ACEngineering

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Oxon
Are the Ryobi bits the same then?

looks like need both motor and gearbox if buying milwaukee, that IMO would be a no go for me, rather buy a new tool and get warranty again.
 

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Cowabunga

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Ceredigion,Wales
My old Panasonic compact battery impact wrench packed up yesterday with nasty noise and smoke coming out of the vents. Batteries are original and must be 15 to 20 years old now.
Time for a new one and since I’m in the Milwaukee ecosystem it should be one of those. A mid-torque ½ inch latest model, body only, would suit me, or with one battery and a case if the deal was right.
Any experience with the rubber retention friction-ring type rather than the sprung ball-bearing type?

Model numbers are very confusing. Every retailer seems to have different models, or numbers.
For instance, I’ve seen FMT12F12-0 for £157.50. No batteries.
Also FMT1W2-F12 502X for £224 including two M18 5Ah batteries and case, which might be better value considering the price of batteries etc.
 

dave mountain

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Livestock Farmer
My old Panasonic compact battery impact wrench packed up yesterday with nasty noise and smoke coming out of the vents. Batteries are original and must be 15 to 20 years old now.
Time for a new one and since I’m in the Milwaukee ecosystem it should be one of those. A mid-torque ½ inch latest model, body only, would suit me, or with one battery and a case if the deal was right.
Any experience with the rubber retention friction-ring type rather than the sprung ball-bearing type?

Model numbers are very confusing. Every retailer seems to have different models, or numbers.
For instance, I’ve seen FMT12F12-0 for £157.50. No batteries.
Also FMT1W2-F12 502X for £224 including two M18 5Ah batteries and case, which might be better value considering the price of batteries etc.
M18FMTIW2F12 is the one you want. It is their only true mid torque in the lastest generation models (800+Nm) their other mid torques are just labelled that because they dont want to call them low torque, they are around 300Nm. Friction ring is miles better than sprung ball imo. the number after the dash is just the baterries e.g. -502 means 2 x 5ah batteries. It is very rare that a kit works out cheaper than individual items, the 5ah batteries are £50 inc vat when they are on offer.
 
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quattro

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scotland
M18FMTIW2F12 is the one you want. It is their only true mid torque in the lastest generation models (800+Nm) their other mid torques are just labelled that because they dont want to call them low torque, they are around 300Nm. Friction ring is miles better than sprung ball imo. the number after the dash is just the baterries e.g. -502 means 2 x 5ah batteries. It is very rare that a kit works out cheaper than individual items, the 5ah batteries are £50 inc vat when they are on offer.
Bought one a few months ago very impressive
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
M18FMTIW2F12 is the one you want. It is their only true mid torque in the lastest generation models (800+Nm) their other mid torques are just labelled that because they dont want to call them low torque, they are around 300Nm. Friction ring is miles better than sprung ball imo. the number after the dash is just the baterries e.g. -502 means 2 x 5ah batteries. It is very rare that a kit works out cheaper than individual items, the 5ah batteries are £50 inc vat when they are on offer.
I’ve ordered the wrench from SGS on-line. It actually cost £258.32+VAT but is £70 cheaper that Screwfix and my local independent dealer for Milwaukee. Which is a pity and I was very apologetic to them because there is really no way I could justify paying that much more for the same product while also losing my extra rights under distance-selling regulations. They contacted Milwaukee UK to see if they could get anywhere near the price on the SGS website, but no. I feel bad for them, but on the other hand they too could buy in bulk and sell over the internet if they were so inclined.

The same wrench was available without batteries but with a ‘free’ case for only £35 less. Considering the price of one, let alone two batteries, I decided to get the two battery kit.
 

ACEngineering

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Location
Oxon
I’ve ordered the wrench from SGS on-line. It actually cost £258.32+VAT but is £70 cheaper that Screwfix and my local independent dealer for Milwaukee. Which is a pity and I was very apologetic to them because there is really no way I could justify paying that much more for the same product while also losing my extra rights under distance-selling regulations. They contacted Milwaukee UK to see if they could get anywhere near the price on the SGS website, but no. I feel bad for them, but on the other hand they too could buy in bulk and sell over the internet if they were so inclined.

The same wrench was available without batteries but with a ‘free’ case for only £35 less. Considering the price of one, let alone two batteries, I decided to get the two battery kit.

The cases are rubbish, hard brittle plastic. Never use any of mine.
The thin plastic insert is also poor and will crack up after a short while.

The friction ring is spring steel not rubber, absolutely no point buying the pin detent it's a right pain in the arse!
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
The cases are rubbish, hard brittle plastic. Never use any of mine.
The thin plastic insert is also poor and will crack up after a short while.

The friction ring is spring steel not rubber, absolutely no point buying the pin detent it's a right pain in the arse!
Hikoki was my second choice but since I have some Milwaukee 18V tools and batteries already, it makes sense to stay with them. I’ve still got a set of Elora sockets from the 1960’s and am not an intensive tool user, not having a commercial or even busy workshop, so this ‘should’ last me out.
 

ACEngineering

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Location
Oxon
Hikoki was my second choice but since I have some Milwaukee 18V tools and batteries already, it makes sense to stay with them. I’ve still got a set of Elora sockets from the 1960’s and am not an intensive tool user, not having a commercial or even busy workshop, so this ‘should’ last me out.

Tools are fine no problem there, just cheap cases. the only good thing about them is the stack and lock together.
 

fermerboy

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Location
Banffshire
I’ve ordered the wrench from SGS on-line. It actually cost £258.32+VAT but is £70 cheaper that Screwfix and my local independent dealer for Milwaukee. Which is a pity and I was very apologetic to them because there is really no way I could justify paying that much more for the same product while also losing my extra rights under distance-selling regulations. They contacted Milwaukee UK to see if they could get anywhere near the price on the SGS website, but no. I feel bad for them, but on the other hand they too could buy in bulk and sell over the internet if they were so inclined.

The same wrench was available without batteries but with a ‘free’ case for only £35 less. Considering the price of one, let alone two batteries, I decided to get the two battery kit.
I ordered a new angle grinder today also from SGS so heres hoping they get them sent out fast. :):)
Took mine apart to find a duff bearing on the motor. so stuck a new one in but it won't play ball, wondering if the armature has scraped the outside coils and its goosed. :(
Have jobs to do so bought a new one, meantime. If this one fixes, happy days, one on flappy disc other on cutter disc. :cool::cool:
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
My most used Milwaukee power tool is the angle grinder. This is used mostly by my brother for cow hoof trimming. It eats the 5Ah batteries in that application and two batteries are barely enough for five cows on a charge. I told him just now that his luck was in and he could do ten cows at a time from tomorrow on, with two more batteries coming with the wrench. He wasn’t as happy about this as I thought he might have been. :devil:

On the batteries, I now notice that there are two grades of batteries. There are ‘High Output’ versions
 

dave mountain

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Livestock Farmer
My most used Milwaukee power tool is the angle grinder. This is used mostly by my brother for cow hoof trimming. It eats the 5Ah batteries in that application and two batteries are barely enough for five cows on a charge. I told him just now that his luck was in and he could do ten cows at a time from tomorrow on, with two more batteries coming with the wrench. He wasn’t as happy about this as I thought he might have been. :devil:

On the batteries, I now notice that there are two grades of batteries. There are ‘High Output’ versions
It's just the cell sizes. The 5.5, 8 and 12ah have larger cells than the 4, 5, 9ah and all the others. The larger cells can deliver more current so give more power in any of the power hungry tools. Also they won't overheat as much and less internal losses in the battery as the larger cells have lower resistance.
For the power hungry tools DeWalt flexvolt is far better. 6amp flexvolt battery can give far more power and stay much cooler than a 12ah Milwaukee battery. Plus the DeWalt tools are much more powerful.
 
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bravheart

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Location
scottish borders
I’ve ordered the wrench from SGS on-line. It actually cost £258.32+VAT but is £70 cheaper that Screwfix and my local independent dealer for Milwaukee. Which is a pity and I was very apologetic to them because there is really no way I could justify paying that much more for the same product while also losing my extra rights under distance-selling regulations. They contacted Milwaukee UK to see if they could get anywhere near the price on the SGS website, but no. I feel bad for them, but on the other hand they too could buy in bulk and sell over the internet if they were so inclined.

The same wrench was available without batteries but with a ‘free’ case for only £35 less. Considering the price of one, let alone two batteries, I decided to get the two battery kit.
Milwaukee dont seem to care how the units are sold as long as the numbers are high. My local supplier had it out with the sales rep after the price he had to pay for stock was higher than online prices. Don't think the rep was even slightly interested.
The local supplier could buy in bulk and chuck them online of course or he could also buy from the online guys trying to squeeze a little more of the price to compete. That of course would cut cost and the non caring rep (permanently). Perhaps he might start to sharpen his pencil and help the locals if the consequences were pointed out.
 

ACEngineering

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Location
Oxon
Milwaukee dont seem to care how the units are sold as long as the numbers are high. My local supplier had it out with the sales rep after the price he had to pay for stock was higher than online prices. Don't think the rep was even slightly interested.
The local supplier could buy in bulk and chuck them online of course or he could also buy from the online guys trying to squeeze a little more of the price to compete. That of course would cut cost and the non caring rep (permanently). Perhaps he might start to sharpen his pencil and help the locals if the consequences were pointed out.

The Like's of Powertool mate etc sell so cheap cause they invested 8 to 9 million into stock, your average tool shop is never going to compete with that no matter how hard they try.
 

dave mountain

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Livestock Farmer
The Like's of Powertool mate etc sell so cheap cause they invested 8 to 9 million into stock, your average tool shop is never going to compete with that no matter how hard they try.
Westward building services (powertoolmate) sell £1 million per month of DeWalt and another £1 million per month of Milwaukee. They aren't the only ones (SGS etc) but they do have the best service imo.
 

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