If I drilled wheat now

[Devil's advocate]

So if winter wheat was drilled now & grazed at intervals with lambs till Xmas to keep it short, would it harvest for grain next year?

I'm guessing BYDV would be the biggest problem, followed by grass weeds & maybe other disease?

 

[robs1]

So if winter wheat was drilled now & grazed at intervals with lambs till Xmas to keep it short, would it harvest for grain next year?

I'm guessing BYDV would be the biggest problem, followed by grass weeds & maybe other disease?

Only one way to.find out., not sure about the bydv but would have thought grazing and cold would sort the disease

 

[ajd132]

Try it! If you grazed it then it should stimulate huge root growth?

 

[Lincs Lass]

As my old boss used to say ,,it wont grow in the bag .

 

[PSQ]

It would be cheap forage, but wouldn't be my first choice of green manure. I wouldn't bet the farm on it being worth harvesting, and it wouldn't give you any break to a following cereal if it goes pear shaped..

 

[Devil's advocate]

It would be cheap forage, but wouldn't be my first choice of green manure. I wouldn't bet the farm on it being worth harvesting, and it wouldn't give you any break to a following cereal if it goes pear shaped..

Think your right.

BYDV in my opinion would be the problem

We have grazed winter barley from september to April (before potatoes) just when dry lots of hoggs for a quick graze, it looked very well until we sprayed it with roundup.

 

[Devil's advocate]

Try it! If you grazed it then it should stimulate huge root growth?

That was my thinking, I'll try a few acres sometime, shame Deter is not available.

I just thought some research station would have tried it. Volunteers in reseeds, always look well in siage or hay crops even if grazed hard till mid May.

Of course the variety would make a huge difference.

 

[DanniAgro]

Of course the variety would make a huge difference.

That's true, but I can't decide whether you need a fast or a slow developing variety., amongst other considerations. Thinking about it a slowly developing one should be best, growing quietly and not developing too fast before you stop grazing.

 

[Acke]

If it was here, wheats dwarf desease was a big probleme!
But try a few hectars!

 

[glasshouse]

So if winter wheat was drilled now & grazed at intervals with lambs till Xmas to keep it short, would it harvest for grain next year?

I'm guessing BYDV would be the biggest problem, followed by grass weeds & maybe other disease?

I did that twenty yr ago
Then foot and mouth struck
Couldnt get them off it in time so it didnt yield well

 

[yellow belly]

Plant a proper forage crop then wheat at the conventional time
if winter fallow followed by early wheat grazed worked it would have been used in the last 200 years
I suspect it was tried by the Victorian’s but failed duet to weeds and desease plus there are better forage catch crops
Oats could be a desease reducing catch crop with the sheep eating the aphid and weeds if grazed hard

 

[glasshouse]

Plant a proper forage crop then wheat at the conventional time
if winter fallow followed by early wheat grazed worked it would have been used in the last 200 years
I suspect it was tried by the Victorian’s but failed duet to weeds and desease plus there are better forage catch crops
Oats could be a desease reducing catch crop with the sheep eating the aphid and weeds if grazed hard

The yanks and aussies graze wheat

 

[glasshouse]

Grazing wheat in the uk was commonplace in the past when there were fences

 

[yellow belly]

The yanks and aussies graze wheat

But they do not plant it in July or equivalent southern hemisphere timing

 

[Roger Perry]

Young neighbor who runs around 9000 ewes plants wheat in mid April, irrigated, grazing now and must say they do look well on it.

 

[Devil's advocate]

But they do not plant it in July or equivalent southern hemisphere timing

In the past it was possible to drill late September/early October, this may no longer be the case.

 

[Devil's advocate]

Plant a proper forage crop then wheat at the conventional time
if winter fallow followed by early wheat grazed worked it would have been used in the last 200 years
I suspect it was tried by the Victorian’s but failed duet to weeds and desease plus there are better forage catch crops
Oats could be a desease reducing catch crop with the sheep eating the aphid and weeds if grazed hard

I was meaning after early harvested crops like early potatoes, brassica or carrots. In my case it would be after hay.

 

[Devil's advocate]

Young neighbor who runs around 9000 ewes plants wheat in mid April, irrigated, grazing now and must say they do look well on it.

Roger is this just a forage crop or will it go through a combine at some stage, if so when?

 

[SilliamWhale]

Google Mark Bonfils wheat growing

 

[Devil's advocate]

I've relatives in Herefordshire, not seen them for 20 odd years.

They always drilled wheat asap after 1st September & grazed hard with Welsh lambs until Xmas

Maybe old practice that has died out.

Like ploughing twice for potatoes. Plough after straw muck spread first Nov, get frost mould spread more muck in spring & plough just before planting just using spring tine for cultivation., all done with 50 hp tractors.