If you can't feed a country, you haven't got a country.

[Courier]

Well maybe someone is beginning to take notice....

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...d-crisis-seasonal-migrant-labour-eu?CMP=fb_gu

 

[thatlldaespot]

Hell's teeth. I can't 'like' that. The vague feeling of despair which has lived with me since June 24th last year has just rocketed up several notches.

 

[willy]

They can still come, but need to apply for a visa at worst.

 

[Henarar]

how come there are non EU workers here now ?
If they manage it I would think workers from the EU will be able to as well
there may be a bit more paper work ?
bit of a non story ? scaremongering ?

 

[chaffcutter]

It's the Guardian again......

 

[7610 super q]

Oh boo-hoo. Maybe supermarkets will have to go back to sourcing from small family farms who employ a dozen locals.
3000 workers ? Don't make me laugh. Sounds like a large company that's hopped into bed with the supermarkets.
Tough titty.

 

[Steevo]

I'm not sure the debate is really about migrant workers or no migrant workers. It tells us more about:

A) attitude of UK workers
B) attitude to UK farmers/UK food production and sourcing
C) race for cheap food
D) whether there is any control over who enters/leaves this country

Take the workers themselves out of the situation, the underlying issues are still there......mainly that people say one thing and do another.

 

[Steevo]

The sausage firm have done well for themselves it appears - bit different than how they were when they appeared on The Fixer a few years back.

 

[Tarw Coch]

It's the Guardian again......

Yes, I was reading it as an anti Brexit article, it's no like the guardian to be looking out for the interests of a large scale farmer...........unless it suits their agenda.

 

[Y Fan Wen]

My shearlings have just been sheared by two New Zealanders. I have recently had a few hundred metres of fencing erected by two Polish guys. Just saying.

 

[rob1]

brits have been told that the futures lies in highly paid jobs which you get by going to uni and then you get sit in a nice warm office, working with your hands and doing a dirty manual job is considered second class, and now JC wants to give everyone a free pass to uni

 

[Ffermer Bach]

I think as a country we have too many young people completing degrees without any job prospects, or at second class institutions, we need more technicians and apprentices. Unfortunately the quality of applicants for apprenticeships and technical training is too low, as the quality applicants are applying to second rate institutions, and giving everyone who goes to uni no fees and maintenance grants will only make things worse. I have come across young people who did not want a job, as getting EMA without having to work was preferable to actually working for a real wage (and having to work!). A lot of employers like to employ farmers sons, as at least they have a good work ethic..

 

[ARW]

Simple, the people without jobs can do that job

 

[caveman]

FFS.
Are strawberries, blackberries and blueberries essential to sustain life?
I say good riddance to the EU and big business that has killed off all the little diversifications that sustained holdings up and down the land.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Local workers "not wanting to do" some jobs
"just not interested"
Even ex-prisoners being fussy about how they make money
jobs being "pinched" by overseas workers!!
sounds more like NZ every day
here, it's called "The Herald" but the same scaremongering exists, and the same facts remain; some people enjoy the jobs others consider beneath themselves, and will do it for minimal repayment

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Local workers "not wanting to do" some jobs
"just not interested"
Even ex-prisoners being fussy about how they make money
jobs being "pinched" by overseas workers!!
sounds more like NZ every day
here, it's called "The Herald" but the same scaremongering exists, and the same facts remain; some people enjoy the jobs others consider beneath themselves, and will do it for minimal repayment

If you want to see how bad "the hearld" has gotten, read anything from Rachel "toxic" Stewart!!!, 15-20 years ago it was a quality newspaper, now it has degenerated into unperferated bog roll!!!
Mind you One halfwit News is bugger all better.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

If you want to see how bad "the hearld" has gotten, read anything from Rachel "toxic" Stewart!!!, 15-20 years ago it was a quality newspaper, now it has degenerated into unperferated bog roll!!!
Mind you One halfwit News is bugger all better.

I blame not being a state of Australia, fat lot of good that harbour bridge ever did us

 

[sleepy]

It's all very well saying "just get the abritish people without jobs to do it" but how exactly are we going to do this? I'm not convinced most of the abritish unemployed are even capable of doing many of these jobs properly even if they were made to.

All that will happen is these companies will move production overseas if they can't get the workforce here.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

It's all very well saying "just get the abritish people without jobs to do it" but how exactly are we going to do this? I'm not convinced most of the abritish unemployed are even capable of doing many of these jobs properly even if they were made to.

All that will happen is these companies will move production overseas if they can't get the workforce here.

Some people wouldn't work in an iron lung.
The same point gets bandied about whenever we have the debate about using 1080 poison instead of encouraging people on unemployment benefits to get out there and trap/cyanide the feckers and sell the fur.. people who don't work often don't want to, let alone go out in the country and earn

 

[Daniel]

It's all very well saying "just get the abritish people without jobs to do it" but how exactly are we going to do this? I'm not convinced most of the abritish unemployed are even capable of doing many of these jobs properly even if they were made to.

All that will happen is these companies will move production overseas if they can't get the workforce here.

People need to be incentivised to do the work, and not incentivised to sit on their arse watching loose women.

That would start in primary school, inculcating the old fashioned virtues of a fair day's pay for a fair day's work, and doing whatever job fell to you as best you can.