If you tell lies you'll get caught out eventually

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
I’m still waiting for the call.

I think I’d make a much more suitable candidate tbh. Not only do I not have a Limmy here of my own to self-promote, but I also have an intense dislike for the inherently nutty pillocks. I would rule with complete impartiality, not being swayed by either my own breed interests, or the size of the chequebook of any of the businessmen playing games with the breed.?
 

Ysgythan

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Ammanford
I think I’d make a much more suitable candidate tbh. Not only do I not have a Limmy here of my own to self-promote, but I also have an intense dislike for the inherently nutty pillocks. I would rule with complete impartiality, not being swayed by either my own breed interests, or the size of the chequebook of any of the businessmen playing games with the breed.?

I haven’t got Lims. I haven’t even got cattle. What they need is not a top stockman, it’s a new broom administrator.
 

Michelle100

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Arable Farmer
The chat at the mart was they had an excellent candidate apply, who turns livestock companies around but wasn't even interviewed, but pleasing all the committee was never going to happen. Still on the bright side, its not raining, and doing some ploughing.
 
I haven’t got Lims. I haven’t even got cattle. What they need is not a top stockman, it’s a new broom administrator.
It's best that they don't have cattle IMO. Breeders tend to get small minded and try to sway the society and the breed in a way that suits themselves.

Someone who can get the respect of the members, market the breed and hammer anyone who is cheating, is what's needed.

I don't envy the task of those who are trying to find that individual.
 

jock t

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Fife
We might find out the truth now?

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Social distancing will play into the hands of these crooked mutha fukkas as they can do what they want and might not get inspections for a while.
A bet a lot of pedigree breeders would be very worried about the virus if an inspector were to phone :)
 
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Agrivator

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Social distancing will play into the hands of these crooked mutha fukkas as they can do what the want and might not get inspections for a while.
A bet s lot of pedigree breeders would be very worried about the virus if an inspector were to phone :)

Kick a man when he's down, why don't you?

Why is it of any consequence to you that a bull somewhere was attributed the wrong Mother? If you have any cows, can you claim never to have put the wrong dam or wrong sire on a calf's passport.
Anyone with any street cred knows that many pedigree breeders and Arthur Daley have few scruples when it comes to promoting their wares.
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
Why is it of any consequence to you that a bull somewhere was attributed the wrong Mother? If you have any cows, can you claim never to have put the wrong dam or wrong sire on a calf's passport.
Anyone with any street cred knows that many pedigree breeders and Arthur Daley have few scruples when it comes to promoting their wares.
for most buyers, as long as the bull throws good commercial stock, that is all that is required, but, we have trusted the integrity of the breeders, to produce the goods. It is that integrity, that is in question, and trust, we need to be able to buy cattle, knowing everything is correct, once that trust is called into question, what else is wrong ? These breeders are the top of the table suppliers, everything should be right, these bulls cost a lot of money, surely we have the right to get exactly what we pay for ? Any commercial cattle breeder, will openly admit the cow/calf tag, is not always right, and is why genetic checking is randomly done, in slaughter houses for AA and Hrfd cattle, to ensure the correct sire.
There is obviously a lot more behind the limo story, and I hope we get to hear it. But it does not alter the fact, that if you buy a bull, you should get what is described. That is what the trust is all about, mess around with that, where does it leave that trust ?
 

AftonShepherd

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Livestock Farmer
Location
East Ayrshire
well, as a dairy farmer, with up to 15 cows calving a day, I cant say 100 % accurate, perhaps I am to honest.
In that situation, I'm sure you can't be 100% but your first post infers that all commercial cattle breeders are inaccurate at some time or another, which is simply not true. I only calve 70 sucklers over a 9 week period but can honestly say I've never been in any doubt as to which cow and calf belong together.
 

Hilly

Member
for most buyers, as long as the bull throws good commercial stock, that is all that is required, but, we have trusted the integrity of the breeders, to produce the goods. It is that integrity, that is in question, and trust, we need to be able to buy cattle, knowing everything is correct, once that trust is called into question, what else is wrong ? These breeders are the top of the table suppliers, everything should be right, these bulls cost a lot of money, surely we have the right to get exactly what we pay for ? Any commercial cattle breeder, will openly admit the cow/calf tag, is not always right, and is why genetic checking is randomly done, in slaughter houses for AA and Hrfd cattle, to ensure the correct sire.
There is obviously a lot more behind the limo story, and I hope we get to hear it. But it does not alter the fact, that if you buy a bull, you should get what is described. That is what the trust is all about, mess around with that, where does it leave that trust ?
This commercial cattle breeder will not admit the cow calf tag is not always right , I tag em as they are born and do the job as it should be done truthfully, l
People who commit fraud and tell lies are my pet hate .
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
This commercial cattle breeder will not admit the cow calf tag is not always right , I tag em as they are born and do the job as it should be done truthfully, l
People who commit fraud and tell lies are my pet hate .
we do the best we can, but if there are several cows and calves, all freshly calved, all in a heap, we do our best.
 

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