If you think it's bad here.....

S J H

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
Recently saw figures(may have been on here) which said NZ lamb had a Carbon footprint 1/5 of UK lamb??
How does that work?
I don’t think they have the early lambing, just seasonal, so probably very little hard feed. But I don’t know expect that would equate to 1/5th
 

Campbell

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Location
Herefordshire
@FonterraFarmer. This just reminded me, a year ago, in the blazing summer heat, we were having a yarn at your place about farming and life in general. How is it for you in these times?
Rangiriri Feb 2020.jpg
 

kiwi pom

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Location
canterbury NZ
You used to hear a lot of stories about farm practices in NZ driven by no underpinning by subsidies that would be unacceptable in the U.K.
whether these were apocryphal I couldn’t say but it is highly likely that stock numbers have been pushed to their absolute limit and beyond in order to turn a profit.

Depends where you are and the type of farming I think. It's true, there's older farmers in some areas that really shouldn't be keeping stock anymore but I think that's true of anywhere. Plenty that won't change too and hate any outside interference. Tff shows that's not unique to NZ.
The modern up to date units are all over stock welfare and performance, the same as the UK is. I've a mate who's the youngstock manager for a large business, there's a lot of animals per labour unit but there's great attention to detail and they have up to date handling facilities and technology required to look after every animal.
 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
Be a big farms that will get a lot bigger. Think his qmate works on Linton Station. Says the oldest Shepherd is 26. A lot of blokes getting out of ag. A lot of older farmers selling up while they've still got value in there asset. In my opinion she's like Blair. Regulate ag to its knees like the socialists did here.
Just like the Blair gov't, who trained the stupid pansy in the first place.
UN puppet, and we all know the UN view on animal ag

f**king glad I'm not a farmer, I think we left dairying at the right time TBH
 

S J H

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
I seem to remember they used the comparison of an early lambing flock that is housed and the lambs are finished on Creep up against an outdoor lambing on all grass.
Which is probably a fair percentage of the lamb the UK produces, but I agree it wouldn’t equate to 1/5th of the carbon
 

Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
Remember one thing about Bill Gates.

When he had the opportunity he created a monopoly, forced everyone to use his products and pay through the nose to do so.

So don't pretend you are dealing with a nice guy, he's a ruthless psychopath.
I would disagree with that, other than the psycho bit. His products were inferior and yet he was awarded contracts anyway. Lotus was far better. He was put in place to do the dealings. He's a puppet.
 

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