"Improving Our Lot" - Planned Holistic Grazing, for starters..

onesiedale

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Derbyshire
@onesiedale, how is this part of the farm looking a month later?
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So above is a reminder of 12th June
Below is today. Not quite the horror that was easy to imagine, but definitely room for improvement.. Out of the 15 acre field, this is the only break that has any damage. it's. not even a ⅓ of an acre. I can cope with that.:)

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holwellcourtfarm

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So above is a reminder of 12th June
Below is today. Not quite the horror that was easy to imagine, but definitely room for improvement.. Out of the 15 acre field, this is the only break that has any damage. it's. not even a ⅓ of an acre. I can cope with that.:)

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That is one great benefit of Holistic Planned Grazing / AMP grazing: the cells are small so wet weather only leads to "trashing" small parts of a field.

Talking of wet, we've been looking at a 200 Hectare ex-dairy farm for sale near Hokitika in NZ. Typical annual rainfall between 3 and 6 metres. o_O Offers over £900k.:)
 

bitwrx

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So above is a reminder of 12th June
Below is today. Not quite the horror that was easy to imagine, but definitely room for improvement.. Out of the 15 acre field, this is the only break that has any damage. it's. not even a ⅓ of an acre. I can cope with that.:)

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Amazing. Thanks @onesiedale.

Looks really good. Great to see how well it's recovered. As you say, what damage occurred is limited to a tiny area.

Do you know how much rain it took over that 24hr period?
 

Henarar

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Somerset
That is one great benefit of Holistic Planned Grazing / AMP grazing: the cells are small so wet weather only leads to "trashing" small parts of a field.

Talking of wet, we've been looking at a 200 Hectare ex-dairy farm for sale near Hokitika in NZ. Typical annual rainfall between 3 and 6 metres. o_O Offers over £900k.:)
bargain
 

Whitewalker

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We have a field divided electric fence past few years , why do the weeds grow under the wire ? Have an odd ragweed thistle and rush growing in the middle of a previous clean field?

Cows can graze from either side of wire
 

baaa

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Have just drenched lambs for the first time this season. Latest I've done that by far. Would usually be on 2nd or 3rd drench by now.
Egg counts were up at 900epg but the lambs still looked well.
Longer residuals, longer rotation, and co grazing with cattle all got to be helping.

Was your motivation for worming the FECs? I haven't wormed my lambs this year, no dirty bottoms you see. I have a Barkers Endosure bucket in each paddock which they like, but don't go crazy for. The lambs aren't as big as I would like, but that might be lack of nutrients due to the grass going over its best. To worm or not, and, if so which one? In the past I've tried to test their eye skin colour and worm just the ones who need it. I bought a couple of anti worm herbal licks from a firm here, who claim that have done worm counts after ten days with 90% less burden of fluke and nematodes. Trouble is mine won't touch them. Does anyone worm as the moon is waxing?
I have some help here over the next couple of weeks, so now would be a good time if I'm going to.
 

Treg

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cornwall
Was your motivation for worming the FECs? I haven't wormed my lambs this year, no dirty bottoms you see. I have a Barkers Endosure bucket in each paddock which they like, but don't go crazy for. The lambs aren't as big as I would like, but that might be lack of nutrients due to the grass going over its best. To worm or not, and, if so which one? In the past I've tried to test their eye skin colour and worm just the ones who need it. I bought a couple of anti worm herbal licks from a firm here, who claim that have done worm counts after ten days with 90% less burden of fluke and nematodes. Trouble is mine won't touch them. Does anyone worm as the moon is waxing?
I have some help here over the next couple of weeks, so now would be a good time if I'm going to.
Pomegranate for treating worms , I was always told a few drops of juice added to their water but have quickly looked it up before posting this & feeding the seeds & skin even better.
 

Poorbuthappy

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Devon
Was your motivation for worming the FECs? I haven't wormed my lambs this year, no dirty bottoms you see. I have a Barkers Endosure bucket in each paddock which they like, but don't go crazy for. The lambs aren't as big as I would like, but that might be lack of nutrients due to the grass going over its best. To worm or not, and, if so which one? In the past I've tried to test their eye skin colour and worm just the ones who need it. I bought a couple of anti worm herbal licks from a firm here, who claim that have done worm counts after ten days with 90% less burden of fluke and nematodes. Trouble is mine won't touch them. Does anyone worm as the moon is waxing?
I have some help here over the next couple of weeks, so now would be a good time if I'm going to.
Not just fecs - there have been a few dirty bums showing over the last week and also they have been grazing shorter covers than I would like recently due in part to lack of rain and regrowth. This will have increased worm challenge I'm sure.
Also I was aiming to avoid drenching just as I wean (in the next week) and they go into "clean" pasture.
You eye colour test I presume you mean for anaemia? This will only hold for haemonchus or fluke I presume?
 

GreenerGrass

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Location
Wilts
Does anyone else have a drought? Haven't had any rain for ages.

Not really getting much growth at all, and after this rotation finishes in a couple of days I'm not sure how well the sheep will do with a lack of good grazing ahead of them.

I'm hoping when rain does come the trampled grass will improve infiltration rates and the management will start to show rewards because at the moment our clay soils are hard and dry
 

Poorbuthappy

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Location
Devon
Does anyone else have a drought? Haven't had any rain for ages.

Not really getting much growth at all, and after this rotation finishes in a couple of days I'm not sure how well the sheep will do with a lack of good grazing ahead of them.

I'm hoping when rain does come the trampled grass will improve infiltration rates and the management will start to show rewards because at the moment our clay soils are hard and dry
Same here. I have the couple of fields I put cover crop/ herbal ley into (10 acres total) in reserve but will soon need to make use of them. I'm certainly in a better position than last year despite having a few less acres, which I'm putting down to the improved management.
No rain to speak of since June 18th and though first half of June was wet that came on the back of 12 months of only 2/3 normal rainfall.
Rain promised here for Friday and Saturday so hoping that materialises or otherwise I'm going to have to look at destocking where possible. Aiming to sell all cull ewes in the next few weeks anyway instead of trying to fatten them and hold on for better prices.

However in the spirit of this thread, the positives are that I can see the benefits of planning your grazing and the potential improved soil water retention from better ground cover and increased carbon content.
 
Does anyone else have a drought? Haven't had any rain for ages.

Not really getting much growth at all, and after this rotation finishes in a couple of days I'm not sure how well the sheep will do with a lack of good grazing ahead of them.

I'm hoping when rain does come the trampled grass will improve infiltration rates and the management will start to show rewards because at the moment our clay soils are hard and dry
Where are you, we are nearly as dry now as a month ago before the rain.
 

Treg

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cornwall
Does anyone else have a drought? Haven't had any rain for ages.

Not really getting much growth at all, and after this rotation finishes in a couple of days I'm not sure how well the sheep will do with a lack of good grazing ahead of them.

I'm hoping when rain does come the trampled grass will improve infiltration rates and the management will start to show rewards because at the moment our clay soils are hard and dry
Very dry here, grass is burning off but as @Poorbuthappy says seems slightly better than last year (as long as we have rain fairly quickly), as have extended my rounds (compared to last year ) which have helped a lot.
Tipping out fats regularly so helping to keep numbers down.
Land next door up for rent:scratchhead:
 

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