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Ep. 100 – Burke Teichert – Training the Next Generation of Ranch Managers

Burke Teichert of Teichert Management and Consulting joined me to discuss the training programs that consistently produce the most well equipped ranch managers. We talk about how future ranch manag…

workingcows.net

Need a good hour and a half to take this one in, but well worth it

 

[Farmer Roy]

I find the whole YFC thing interesting.
We have nothing comparable over here, & from an outsiders view point it all looks a bit sad & "try hard wanna be's", but I may be being harsh.
I don't really see a similar organisation working here

 

[hendrebc]

I find the whole YFC thing interesting.
We have nothing comparable over here, & from an outsiders view point it all looks a bit sad & "try hard wanna be's", but I may be being harsh.
I don't really see a similar organisation working here

I might have been a bit hard on it but it's a very good thing to be a part of. I have a lot of friends I would never have met if it hadn't been for yfc and I learnt a lot by going. Some seem to take it much too seriously though and forget it's only really an excuse to meet girls and drink
Most seem to understand what it's about though but you would likely only see the really keen ones on social media.

 

[Samcowman]

@bitwrx if you do buy some cattle I’m only up the road if you need me.
I think farmers should do more business as well as farming in their studies.

Ep. 100 – Burke Teichert – Training the Next Generation of Ranch Managers

Burke Teichert of Teichert Management and Consulting joined me to discuss the training programs that consistently produce the most well equipped ranch managers. We talk about how future ranch manag…

workingcows.net

Need a good hour and a half to take this one in, but well worth it

There’s too many to mention on the working cows podcast that are worth it.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

My teachers at school where really annoyed with me for not trying harder. I still remember going to see the careers adviser and she told me she had spoken to some of the teachers and said the only option for me was the proper route of a levels and university and I laughed at her. It's probably fine for most people but not for me. I would most definitely be making a lot more money than now but I couldn't have standed another 2 years in that school and another 3-6 years in another type of school. I wanted to be outside with some animals. fudge conventional.

Sounds awfully familiar -
"Peter just doesn't apply himself to his classwork"
"Has huge potential"
"Easily one of the most capable students I've ever met/taught"

etc etc

Probably because Peter was earning at least a grand per week outside of school and investing it, so I didn't end up a delusional slave like my 'teachers' were, in my eyes.

Education is something that never stops, unless you know everything

 

[CornishTone]

I find the whole YFC thing interesting.
We have nothing comparable over here, & from an outsiders view point it all looks a bit sad & "try hard wanna be's", but I may be being harsh.
I don't really see a similar organisation working here

Very harsh! It gives 50 thousand odd country kids a social outlet with like minded people, imparts a friendly competitive spirit against their peers, which has largely been removed from mainstream education (because no one is allowed to lose), gives them access to lots of training courses (we love training courses in the UK), has a big emphasis on farm health and safety training, and raises hundreds of thousands of £’s a year for charity. There is no other youth organisation that does what YFC does. Alas, the current management team appear to be driving the organisation down a very odd road, having axed their main fund raiser, because everyone was enjoying themselves too much, and now cranking membership fees up to compensate, might trip them up a bit, but the core ethos of the organisation is utterly brilliant! I am a former club and county chair and National Exec member so I am a bit biased.

As for education, I’m in the formal camp I’m afraid. Loathed school, loved uni. I can count the good teachers at school on 2 fingers and I can count the bad lecturers at uni on 2 fingers. But I’ve learnt far more since graduating than I did at school or uni, and some of that learning will fly directly in the face of my lessons, but isn’t that the point?! Uni should equip graduates with an enquiring and critical mind rather than just straight knowledge. I think that gets lost most of the time. The end of uni marks the end of the beginning of your training/journey, or what ever you want to call it.

Uni doesn’t suit everyone, and nor should it, but I do find those without a university education are often quickest to criticise those with one.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

That's the bugger, it needs to provide the basics, enough to let you realise that you won't ever know all there is to know, which is crucial to learn.
Then you gain the mindset that you'll be open to any alternative ideas or new details - which means you don't need to ever ask "what's the meaning of life?" because you know what it means.

Learning and mastering stuff.

 

[CornishTone]

Very harsh! It gives 50 thousand odd country kids a social outlet with like minded people, imparts a friendly competitive spirit against their peers, which has largely been removed from mainstream education (because no one is allowed to lose), gives them access to lots of training courses (we love training courses in the UK), has a big emphasis on farm health and safety training, and raises hundreds of thousands of £’s a year for charity. There is no other youth organisation that does what YFC does. Alas, the current management team appear to be driving the organisation down a very odd road, having axed their main fund raiser, because everyone was enjoying themselves too much, and now cranking membership fees up to compensate, might trip them up a bit, but the core ethos of the organisation is utterly brilliant! I am a former club and county chair and National Exec member so I am a bit biased.

I should probably expand further...

YFC also imparts confidence by teaching the art of public speaking and public debate and teaches the correct way to conduct a formal business meeting.

These skills are becoming ever more rare but, in a world where the loudest idiot can get their way, ever more important. I can always tell those who have come up through YFC by the way they conduct themselves in a formal meeting.

Any other business?!

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Would he be a good candidate to help you petition the NZ climate board regarding the proposed carbon regulations for agriculture? You both have data to prove their approach is wrong for holistic grazing.

 

[bitwrx]

I should probably expand further...

YFC also imparts confidence by teaching the art of public speaking and public debate and teaches the correct way to conduct a formal business meeting.

These skills are becoming ever more rare but, in a world where the loudest idiot can get their way, ever more important. I can always tell those who have come up through YFC by the way they conduct themselves in a formal meeting.

Any other business?!

Fecking "any other business" needs to get the f**k out. If it's important, get it on the bleedin agenda beforehand, or at the least at the very start!

(Sorry, pet hate.)

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Fecking "any other business" needs to get the fudge out. If it's important, get it on the bleedin agenda beforehand, or at the least at the very start!

(Sorry, pet hate.)

In a well chaired meeting it should be "any new business for the next meeting". Managing expectations

 

[Bury the Trash]

I find the whole YFC thing interesting.
We have nothing comparable over here, & from an outsiders view point it all looks a bit sad & "try hard wanna be's", but I may be being harsh.
I don't really see a similar organisation working here

Is the no Rural Youth organisation anymore?

 

[CornishTone]

In a well chaired meeting it should be "any new business for the next meeting". Managing expectations

Same difference. In a well chaired meeting it will be kept short and to the point for broader discussion at the next meeting.

 

[awkward]

I find the whole YFC thing interesting.
We have nothing comparable over here, & from an outsiders view point it all looks a bit sad & "try hard wanna be's", but I may be being harsh.
I don't really see a similar organisation working here

here the young farmers organisation is called macra na feirme the biggest club in the country is in Dublin city . it's more about like interests and activities than anything else.

 

[Crofter64]

I was in England for A levels, returned to Canada to do a degree in history, all the while reading and thinking’farming’. Was sent to Prince Edward Island at 19 to work on a sheep/ turnip outfit to ‘cure’ me of my illusions. Prepared for law school but started a master’s in history instead , still reading many books on agriculture. Lived in the city and married at 22, had children and then fell seriously ill. Three years later, when I got better, my husband asked what he could do to make me happy and I said move to the country, buy a farm and raise the boys there. 25 years on I am still farming but understand that my serious lack of any practical training- i.e making mistakes on other people’s farms instead of my own, and having someone experienced to guide me ,is an enormous liability. Luckily I am a big reader and seem to tolerate setbacks without giving up.
I have found the farming community’s reluctance to give any practical advice startling. Whenever I asked neighbour’s for an opinion or guidance on a particular subject, the answer was mostly ‘it depends...’
My parents were always a bit horrified that I chose this life when I could have had a life of ease and ‘fun’. I have always been interested in nature, animals, and manual labour and in my teens read Leo Tolsoy’s ‘Anna Karenina’ and was deeply influenced by the character Constantine Levin ( Tolstoy himself) who was an early proponent of the back to the land movement and reconnection to a ‘ simpler’ life.
I have a neighbour’s son working for me this summer ( as his brother and sister have done before him). His Dad sold his dairy herd about 5 years ago so the boy didn’t have much experience besides feeding the calves and doing a few odd jobs but his inate understanding and ability to get jobs done quickly and efficiently is impressive. I had to teach him to drive a quad and a tractor , but he’s a natural. I wish I had his inborn skills. Will he become a farmer? He likes my unconventional approach ( heard it from his mother), but he will probably never make it his life’s work. Shame. Ignoramuses like me jump right in and naturals like him drift away.

 

[CornishTone]

I have found the farming community’s reluctance to give any practical advice startling. Whenever I asked neighbour’s for an opinion or guidance on a particular subject, the answer was mostly ‘it depends...’

Hmm, in my experience farmers are more than happy to give you the benefit of their wisdom... whether you want it or not!!!!!![emoji57]

 

[Kiwi Pete]

here the young farmers organisation is called macra na feirme the biggest club in the country is in Dublin city . it's more about like interests and activities than anything else.

We have a YFC here, mostly the activities involve hangover recovery via rehydration, and excessive consumption, or at least it was when I was involved.
I stuck with it for a year, but I figured out after a month that it was really all about creating opportunities to drink beer when the rugby had finished for the year, and fundraising for bus trips to drink beer in a mobile setting. Once a year they'd have a competition to see if anyone was "Young Farmer of the Year" material.

Not for this kid.

 

[Farmer Roy]

Is the no Rural Youth organisation anymore?

Dunno ?
Don't know anything about it ?

 

[Farmer Roy]

sh!t photo i know
But Budgies & a Galah
Just normal for us . . .

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Hmm, in my experience farmers are more than happy to give you the benefit of their wisdom... whether you want it or not!!!!!![emoji57]

Yes but there "wisdom" and Wisdom! Very few dispense the latter.