"Improving Our Lot" - Planned Holistic Grazing, for starters..

hendrebc

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My sheep will end up on a sacrifice field here on haylage once the paddocks are grazed out, so not too bothered about regrowth for winter grazing (if I got any), more about what sets up the place for next spring. There's a bit of dead stuff about. Best to take it down hard (1000-1200kgdm) and freshen it up?
That's what I'm doing but not going quite that low. 1500 is plenty low enough I think it's a good enough amount that it isn't growing from the roots and should have enough leaves to photosynthesise and grow from. I have some left at 1800 to see what will happen. I expect it will just rot.
 

Kiwi Pete

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My sheep will end up on a sacrifice field here on haylage once the paddocks are grazed out, so not too bothered about regrowth for winter grazing (if I got any), more about what sets up the place for next spring. There's a bit of dead stuff about. Best to take it down hard (1000-1200kgdm) and freshen it up?
Maybe....
I wouldn't say best to, but if you have to get into the broke-zone then now is probably the time to do it, be prepared for dirty bums and a drop in performance as there is nothing for stock in the bottom inches except parasites and potash

Hard to say, I usually ask myself, "would they be here if I didn't make them be here?" and generally the answer is they would do better somewhere else, and the grass would probably be better off as well
Sometimes you just have to compromise
 
Maybe....
I wouldn't say best to, but if you have to get into the broke-zone then now is probably the time to do it, be prepared for dirty bums and a drop in performance as there is nothing for stock in the bottom inches except parasites and potash

Hard to say, I usually ask myself, "would they be here if I didn't make them be here?" and generally the answer is they would do better somewhere else, and the grass would probably be better off as well
Sometimes you just have to compromise
Might be best being a little kinder to them, leaving the grass a little longer, feeding bales a little earlier and hopefully having grass growth a little sooner then. What I have noticed is that if there's more than one lame, it's usually when they're on a bare paddock.
 

bitwrx

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:love::love::love::love: That video
Amen to that. My eyes leaked a bit the first few times I watched it. Don't know why; something just struck.

Actually it was a Welsh speaking farmer by the name of Gerald Miles who was talking on a Farmerama podcast about black oats amongst other things.
Not heard of farmerama. Now listening to the bread episode. Love it. Thank you for inadvertently recommending it.
 

Kiwi Pete

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Livestock Farmer
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Sorry it's a bit sexist

It is apt though
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
Has it got to be geared reels,:unsure: and how to lock off temporary fence lines has it got to be done with the reel lock .
just looking for alternatives to what seem to expensive reels.
and im thinking fibre glass could be better than rotten wood , even on boundaries. far cheaper and will out last by far i should think, ass long ass the insulators dont get effected by the sun. and break after 5 years or so.....:unsure:
 

exmoor dave

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exmoor, uk
Has it got to be geared reels,:unsure: and how to lock off temporary fence lines has it got to be done with the reel lock .
just looking for alternatives to what seem to expensive reels.
and im thinking fibre glass could be better than rotten wood , even on boundaries. far cheaper and will out last by far i should think, ass long ass the insulators dont get effected by the sun. and break after 5 years or so.....:unsure:


Rather than geared reels, you cold use the kiwitech winder, where the winder has the gearing and winding gubbings,
The spools are just plain spools that are detached and left where ever you've unwound them.

You can use it to put out/wind in 1,2 or 3 spools st once..... but there's a knack to winding 3 in at once!
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
Rather than geared reels, you cold use the kiwitech winder, where the winder has the gearing and winding gubbings,
The spools are just plain spools that are detached and left where ever you've unwound them.

You can use it to put out/wind in 1,2 or 3 spools st once..... but there's a knack to winding 3 in at once!
ah yeah,i keep forgetting about them,looks like long lasting stuff as well.
 

Gulli

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Has it got to be geared reels,:unsure: and how to lock off temporary fence lines has it got to be done with the reel lock .
just looking for alternatives to what seem to expensive reels.
and im thinking fibre glass could be better than rotten wood , even on boundaries. far cheaper and will out last by far i should think, ass long ass the insulators dont get effected by the sun. and break after 5 years or so.....:unsure:
If you dont have enough reels (like me) just put the temporary fence out and tie it off with string, use the reel elsewhere until you need to pick that bit of fence up again
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
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They look like Ruby's.
Stop buying new wire then ;)
Havnt got enough of that either for even 3 paddocks plus a few hedge perimeter fences.
But actually Its Suprising how a good tight knot doesnt effect power if you put the tester to check .its just the thought of it really and bit lumpy at times when you're reeling in or out etc.
 

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