JohnGalway
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- Location
- Connemara, Ireland
Local builder supply centre, 12 rolls of 150m roll of 1/2 inch heavy duty was €1213, which was more than I was initially quoted but was dealing with 2 diff people in same place ?
"Improving Our Lot" - Planned Holistic Grazing, for starters..
- Thread starter Kiwi Pete
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Local builder supply centre, 12 rolls of 150m roll of 1/2 inch heavy duty was €1213, which was more than I was initially quoted but was dealing with 2 diff people in same place ?
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Yes, definitely, or milk if it was to be available (and not antibiotic-ridden)
Any food for the soil has to be a good thing, if we're going to interrupt the natural food cycle?
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
That's pretty reasonable; I got the 25mm LDPE (alkathene) for our water for approx £3k but that was roughly 3× your distance so it was discounted (and from a buyer's group which saved £500ish).
it will be a bit of clean grazing, and useful particularly atm.
they will eat it but they will prefer the corn whilst its there. i wouldnt say they will do on it, but it will keep them.
its a actually good way to take out charlock in seeds, eat it off then mow for silage and charlock will be gone without spraying..
- Location
- West Yorkshire
Best price I can find is online @ £70.61 +vat for 150m of 25mm and that’s delivered I think
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- Location
- Derbyshire UK
Out of interest, what sort of salt are you using? are you pre mixing/dissolving ingredients before putting into sprayer? will it go through sprayer filters ok? 200ltr/ha?
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Just the cheap ag salt, yes I'll dissolve it first.. it won't be very strong compared to my weedkiller brew which is prob 40% salt by weight, and sprayed on hot.
This will only be about 2kg so hardly 'a toxic amount' across 35 acres. Merely a cheap sweetener and to help the spray mix form decent droplets- the exact opposite of using a soap/surfactant
This will only be about 2kg so hardly 'a toxic amount' across 35 acres. Merely a cheap sweetener and to help the spray mix form decent droplets- the exact opposite of using a soap/surfactant
- Location
- Derbyshire UK
At a guess, what % acetic acid would your vinegar be? (I use acetic acid for fumigating empty bee boxes). I am thinking along the lines of acetic acid to burn off grass, ag salt so sheep graze down, Molasses @ 5ltr/ha to feed soil. Knocks grass back long enough to get new seeds established. Might pay to trial some of the juice through the knapsack before dosing 1,000 acres!
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
No idea, but you wouldn't dunk your chips in it, smells pretty similar to the product you describe
Funny how we both got to roughly the same bit of the puzzle from different ends, isn't it?
I woyld def. recommend using some humate/fulvic acid in your brew as well as the molasses. Only need half a litre of fulvic per ha or so.
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Is anyone up for joining us on a free 2 hour webinar with Walter jehne next Thursday evening (or Friday morning in Pete's case) with @Sheila Cooke ?
www.3lm.network
WEBINAR: Q&A with Walter Jehne
WEBINAR: Q&A with Walter Jehne We can safely and quickly cool our climate by working with the natural cooling process provided by Earth's Water Cycle. Yes, we can! How? These processes need living landscapes with abundant plant life and a functional soil sponge to soak up the rain. Many people...
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ShooTa
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- Location
- Denbighshire - In the vale of Clwyd!
yeah i might be free - i did the one last night too.
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
I got delayed and only caught the last 15 minutes. I'll catch up on the recording.
ShooTa
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- Location
- Denbighshire - In the vale of Clwyd!
i think youll gain very little as it was seemingly a primer / a lite version for newcomers to holistic thinking.
it needed another hour or 2..
it needed another hour or 2..
DoneIs anyone up for joining us on a free 2 hour webinar with Walter jehne next Thursday evening (or Friday morning in Pete's case) with @Sheila Cooke ?
WEBINAR: Q&A with Walter Jehne
WEBINAR: Q&A with Walter Jehne We can safely and quickly cool our climate by working with the natural cooling process provided by Earth's Water Cycle. Yes, we can! How? These processes need living landscapes with abundant plant life and a functional soil sponge to soak up the rain. Many people...
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Yesterday morning I did this webinar (the Dr Andrea Momblanch one although I've done all of these so far).
most of the presentation was very technical around how the trials were set up and the modeling equations. I was left wanting to have a long debate about her work.
Essentially she had been commissioned by Affinity Water (our local company) to investigate the potential benefits to them of paying farmers in their catchment (that I managed for 23 years) to grow cover crops. Her investigation was incredibly reductionist (Trials run on 1m cube standard soil tubs in controlled lab conditions growing only 3 crop mixes for only one season, with only 4 species in the most diverse mixture) but still concluded there were huge benefits in infiltration improvements and soil erosion reduction.
Hopefully this sort of trial will inform the new Agriculture policy and get a large chunk of the reallocated subsidy money used to support regenerative principles.
Webinar recordings - NERC Natural Flood Management research programme
Optimising NFM in headwater catchments to protect downstream communities. Moorland restoration, including gully blocking, Sphagnum reintroduction and upland woodland planting.
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most of the presentation was very technical around how the trials were set up and the modeling equations. I was left wanting to have a long debate about her work.
Essentially she had been commissioned by Affinity Water (our local company) to investigate the potential benefits to them of paying farmers in their catchment (that I managed for 23 years) to grow cover crops. Her investigation was incredibly reductionist (Trials run on 1m cube standard soil tubs in controlled lab conditions growing only 3 crop mixes for only one season, with only 4 species in the most diverse mixture) but still concluded there were huge benefits in infiltration improvements and soil erosion reduction.
Hopefully this sort of trial will inform the new Agriculture policy and get a large chunk of the reallocated subsidy money used to support regenerative principles.
exmoor dave
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- Location
- exmoor, uk
Sorry completely off topic..... after leaving your place we drove through the Catlins, we stopped off for lunch at a old school house (converted to a cafe),
The lad at the till, quickly guessed we were english, and having ordered chips, he asked if we'd be requiring vinegar.
We said yes please.
He says "I'll bring a pot out...... so what is it you guys do with it.....do you just dunk the chips in it???"
Much explaining followed ?
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
It's a type of mouthwash, isn't it, so you don't complain about the food until you get home?
I'm not much of a vinegar fan, must admit that a good whiff of malt vinegar is just about one of the most repulsive odours to my nose - I won't even have mayo on things
I can sometimes bolt back some apple cider vinegar as 'medicine' but I have to surprise myself a little - vinegar and I just don't agree. Soy sauce is similar.
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
If you're looking at covercrops there's a great webinar coming up in March, more of an online conference really.Is anyone up for joining us on a free 2 hour webinar with Walter jehne next Thursday evening (or Friday morning in Pete's case) with @Sheila Cooke ?
WEBINAR: Q&A with Walter Jehne
WEBINAR: Q&A with Walter Jehne We can safely and quickly cool our climate by working with the natural cooling process provided by Earth's Water Cycle. Yes, we can! How? These processes need living landscapes with abundant plant life and a functional soil sponge to soak up the rain. Many people...
Can't remember off the top of my lid who runs it but I can check through my emails if anyone's keen, I simply registered on the spot, but I will be interested to see what's discussed for specific resource concerns and outcomes
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Yes please
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Yes please
Hopefully this works, let me know if it doesn't and I can try something else.
Covercropping is a really amazing chapter all on its own, I think most stock-farmers tend to just look at "feeding the cows" when it comes to what they plant - but CCing can be so much more than that, as I hope to demonstrate with ours.
People think outwintering and see 'a sea of mud' but that's largely because they didn't plant species specifically for "bedding" and other species to provide the correct C:N ratio for their expected winter conditions, stubble turnips grazed bare hardly provide soil armour or anything else besides "food for the cows"
What we're attempting to recreate with our mix is a bigger copy of what already works well here, that is: 'permanent pasture'
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