"Improving Our Lot" - Planned Holistic Grazing, for starters..

[Rob Garrett]

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Good burn off KP. Do you think the clover will survive?
If so, it might just solve a problem I had last year with spring oats undersown with white clover & trefoil. The oats took an age to die off/ripen (presume getting some goodness from the clover), thought about a sniff of glyphosate but didn't because of the clover/soil life etc.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

they are apparently a scurge to the environment and should be done away with in favour of some over processed crap made in a factory
if you have ever heard so much sh1t in all your life
perhaps Pete should tell his neighbours that and see what they think

These particular neighbours are the ladies who prefer the plant-based diet, so perhaps they have an unspoken bond with the cows?

They will also enjoy watching the bull, I expect, because he's been doing a bit of that

 

[Treg]

they are apparently a scurge to the environment and should be done away with in favour of some over processed crap made in a factory
if you have ever heard so much sh1t in all your life
perhaps Pete should tell his neighbours that and see what they think

Yes well it's the ones wearing balaclavas, holding a chainsaw & gas tanks strap to their backs you've gotta watch out for

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

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I think drilling went OK, really quite enjoyed myself TBH. Just a wee bit shy on seed so...... back to the mixer for more.
Going to do some other bits I didn't think would drill, after doing this much with a disc drill I think it'll be fine.

Just doubled your annual tractor hours

 

[Karliboy]

Just doubled your annual tractor hours

And some more I suspect.

Probably had 4 flat tyres, flat battery and stale fuel to change and sort before Pete could even get out the shed it’s been parked up that long. ??

 

[ShooTa]

talking of tractor driving - ive been doing too much... but its for a good cause - re arranging the yard for scanning. tidy yard = happy me. holistic happiness and all./

 

[Henarar]

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[Kiwi Pete]

Good burn off KP. Do you think the clover will survive?
If so, it might just solve a problem I had last year with spring oats undersown with white clover & trefoil. The oats took an age to die off/ripen (presume getting some goodness from the clover), thought about a sniff of glyphosate but didn't because of the clover/soil life etc.

Hopefully it all survives, that's the big plan, there will be plenty of regen from everything next month but the seeds should give them a good run

Just doubled your annual tractor hours

About that, took about an hour per hectare all counted - I am pretty fussy when it comes to drilling.
Hopefully it should halve my tractor hours and eliminate silaging..... "hopefully"

And some more I suspect.

Probably had 4 flat tyres, flat battery and stale fuel to change and sort before Pete could even get out the shed it’s been parked up that long. ??

It does have a slow leak in the front right, has for the last 3 years..... but it doesn't worry me overly much (for all she does).
Was a good excuse to clean the windows properly and give the old girl an oil change.... I may still top some thistles yet

 

[Farmer Roy]

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[Farmer Roy]

 

[bitwrx]

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Sounds like he touched a raw nerve...

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Sounds like he touched a raw nerve...

"The truth will set you free"

 

[Poorbuthappy]

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Perhaps @Clive should get him on the books?

 

[Crofter64]

"The truth will set you free"

and unemployed

 

[Farmer Roy]

Remember the “3 legged pot” & make sure you plan for yourselves / consider the human element in any planning

Remember the people matter

People matter - plan for them as you plan for all other areas of the business.

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[Rob Garrett]

You’d all be familiar with Nicole

what “defines” regen Ag ?
it is a lot more than just “winding the clock back”

Is that your place at the end of Nicole's presentation Farmer Roy?

 

[exmoor dave]

Pete,
You mentioned on the suckler thread about running out of grass on rotational grazing, but using the "multipaddock" system, have improved on that?

What is the fundamental differences? Or is it your approach to destocking at certains times, the big difference?


The running out of grass conundrum is kinda of where I feel we are, in particular in mid summer, the area's set up for RG are growing earlier, longer into the season, growing more, but only delaying the inevitable in our usual dry summers here.

Reality could just be that we're over stocked midsummer and grazing rounds are too short.... but then that goes against the idea of RG potentially being about being able to carry stock more comfortably, or potentially more stock, thus spreading costs further.

 

[Farmer Roy]

Is that your place at the end of Nicole's presentation Farmer Roy?

no

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Pete,
You mentioned on the suckler thread about running out of grass on rotational grazing, but using the "multipaddock" system, have improved on that?

What is the fundamental differences? Or is it your approach to destocking at certains times, the big difference?


The running out of grass conundrum is kinda of where I feel we are, in particular in mid summer, the area's set up for RG are growing earlier, longer into the season, growing more, but only delaying the inevitable in our usual dry summers here.

Reality could just be that we're over stocked midsummer and grazing rounds are too short.... but then that goes against the idea of RG potentially being about being able to carry stock more comfortably, or potentially more stock, thus spreading costs further.

Man, that thread is entertaining...
A few points of interest re the flaws that can creep into rotational grazing:
1. "No drought reserve", as you say the shortish round and low atocking density means that the animals kinda manage their own grazing... which leads to
2. "Untoward acceleration" where the grazing gets faster to feed the stock 'today' which leads to less grass for 'tomorrow'
3. Long recovery rotational grazing (due to lower density at key times) generally means there is a trade-off to be made regards quality and quantity - but that's more an understanding issue than anything else.

Yes, destocking definitely makes a difference but at the present point we're stocked pretty high - if my bulls are 5 'sheep equivalent'? then were running over 12 sheep per acre and we've never been feeding stock so well for summer.
It's a combination of many different things.... such as that figure above is influenced by a reduction in grazing area that's only just happened and probably isn't sustainable let alone regenerative

So..... the sheep go home next week because my grass cover is more important than anything

 

[Blaithin]

Pete,
You mentioned on the suckler thread about running out of grass on rotational grazing, but using the "multipaddock" system, have improved on that?

What is the fundamental differences? Or is it your approach to destocking at certains times, the big difference?


The running out of grass conundrum is kinda of where I feel we are, in particular in mid summer, the area's set up for RG are growing earlier, longer into the season, growing more, but only delaying the inevitable in our usual dry summers here.

Reality could just be that we're over stocked midsummer and grazing rounds are too short.... but then that goes against the idea of RG potentially being about being able to carry stock more comfortably, or potentially more stock, thus spreading costs further.

You need to break the land in first. If you’ve grazed it down and are overstocked for what it’s producing currently, then rotating the animals isn’t really going to help much right away


You’d need to restock some first to give the land the proper rest and rest periods between rotations. That will help boost its health and get it producing more and get it more resilient.

Unfortunately like many things you aren’t going to see stocking results immediately. It’s going to be a next season or the season after or the season after kind of thing. Before all that you’re going to see plant and pasture health increase.