"Improving Our Lot" - Planned Holistic Grazing, for starters..

[Bury the Trash]

I usually just have two strands up which they just walk under. But recently I’ve been putting 2 lines up so a double strand and then a single strange on a separate run, thinking they would more chance of getting a shock. But I watched them today just walk straight through it. My fencer is a voss 5j which gives off a hell of a whack but the shocks are to slow and there’s to much of a delay between shocks. They have plenty of grass but they always want what’s the other side of my wire.... what’s the problem?

Was hoping to hit these rushes hard with small pens but they won’t stay in them

try 4 wires all the same post tho. definitely to start with they've got be trained to it, maybe will even need 5 wires. so they have to touch with their face/ nose /cant avoid that.

have you got a tester ? put it on the fence what does it say ? how many KV 's ? its the only way to actually know whats going on.

 

[clod hopper]

I usually just have two strands up which they just walk under. But recently I’ve been putting 2 lines up so a double strand and then a single strange on a separate run, thinking they would more chance of getting a shock. But I watched them today just walk straight through it. My fencer is a voss 5j which gives off a hell of a whack but the shocks are to slow and there’s to much of a delay between shocks. They have plenty of grass but they always want what’s the other side of my wire.... what’s the problem?

Was hoping to hit these rushes hard with small pens but they won’t stay in them

I'd shear the buggers and start again

 

[Poorbuthappy]

I'd shoot the buggers and start again

Fixed that for you

 

[clod hopper]

Fixed that for you

 

[Henarar]

one place that will stop them
its called market

 

[jack6480]

try 4 wires all the same post tho. definitely to start with they've got be trained to it, maybe will even need 5 wires. so they have to touch with their face/ nose /cant avoid that.

have you got a tester ? put it on the fence what does it say ? how many KV 's ? its the only way to actually know whats going on.

Will try 4 wires tomorrow, last time I tested it it was 10kv out of that group only 6 stay in the pen
Give me strength

 

[DanM]

Will try 4 wires tomorrow, last time I tested it it was 10kv out of that group only 6 stay in the pen
Give me strength

Whats your earthing system and how far is it from the sheep? Generally find sheep not respecting a well powered fence is caused by a lack of earthing

 

[jack6480]

Il send you a picture on tomorrow

 

[Bury the Trash]

Will try 4 wires tomorrow, last time I tested it it was 10kv out of that group only 6 stay in the pen
Give me strength

10 kv is v.good .

that bit bigger type wire from voss is good with the copper and stainless in it, good for training anyway.

this time of year and the moisty should be helping

Do you use dogs or a dog.... sometimes if they know a dog is around it stops them taking the mick.

 

[jack6480]

10 kv is v.good .

that bit bigger type wire from voss is good with the copper and stainless in it, good for training anyway.

this time of year and the moisty should be helping

Do you use dogs or a dog.... sometimes if they know a dog is around it stops them taking the mick.

I use the dog every morning to move. But they decide to get out mid day....

 

[som farmer]

our hfrs out on kale, are getting really annoying, they wait till the fence is off, then through, buggers won't go near it, when its on. Trouble is, we have 2 lots, feeding off the kale, mains fencer pushing out a damn good crack, and spark ! Will have to fiddle the fence round, to shorten the time it's off, thought we had the culprit, housed her, obviously wrong. Did cause me to remember why we stopped growing kale, for winter feed, 40 yrs ago !!

 

[Poorbuthappy]

our hfrs out on kale, are getting really annoying, they wait till the fence is off, then through, buggers won't go near it, when its on. Trouble is, we have 2 lots, feeding off the kale, mains fencer pushing out a damn good crack, and spark ! Will have to fiddle the fence round, to shorten the time it's off, thought we had the culprit, housed her, obviously wrong. Did cause me to remember why we stopped growing kale, for winter feed, 40 yrs ago !!

I don't follow, why does the fence go off?

 

[som farmer]

I don't follow, why does the fence go off?

when we move it, do a double break, so always 1 fence up, don't fancy moving it, in wet kale, that's between 3 and 5 ft tall, with the fencer on, the buggers won't push it, when it's on either.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Are the same ones escaping each time? or all of them

 

[jack6480]

Are the same ones escaping each time? or all of them

All except 6. Out of 50

 

[ShooTa]

id second the poor earthing as a cause - and repeat offenders need re training / predatored

 

[Bury the Trash]

the fence is showing 10,000volts , that's fine just touch it and youl see even with your welly boots on ....More wires are the answer, wires that stop them putting theyre head through , get a head through and their away.
2 or 3 wires is not enough. Note that I've said it before if you dont want to listen then that's fine also

Shoot them take them to market, buy some new ones and some of them will do just the same

Been there done that over many, many years.

Happy days.

 

[Crofter64]

I’m sorry boys but these sheep are beating me, they do not give a f about my fences

I had tons of trouble with sheep and twine so I invested in electric netting. It’s a bit pricey and cumbersome but they never get out.

 

[Poorbuthappy]

the fence is showing 10,000volts , that's fine just touch it and youl see even with your welly boots on ....More wires are the answer, wires that stop them putting theyre head through , get a head through and their away.
2 or 3 wires is not enough. Note that I've said it before if you dont want to listen then that's fine also

Shoot them take them to market, buy some new ones and some of them will do just the same

Been there done that over many, many years.

Happy days.

My shoot them comment was of course tongue in cheek.
But if you can find the ring leaders and remove them it does sort the problem, if it hasn't been going on for long enough for them all to become potential ring leaders.

 

[jack6480]

My shoot them comment was of course tongue in cheek.
But if you can find the ring leaders and remove them it does sort the problem, if it hasn't been going on for long enough for them all to become potential ring leaders.

ohh dear now you say