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"Improving Our Lot" - Planned Holistic Grazing, for starters..
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<blockquote data-quote="som farmer" data-source="post: 7763611" data-attributes="member: 86168"><p>with the scary information, re fert price, currently N is £500-550 a ton, if you can get it, just like petrol, panic buying, no doubt as things stabilise, price will fall, but not to pre madness. Unfortunately, protien costs tend to be based on the energy price as well, currently soya is £390/ton. The dearest imputs we have, after the unavoidable, are N and protien, which look to be rather higher than normal. I have no idea how some of the intensive dairy boys, will cope, at the current milk price, perhaps a clue, can be found in that the large local cheese maker, is shutting down 2 of his 10 dairy units, they buy from 150 other farms.</p><p> There are pages and pages of info, about legumes, and their abilities, and if we wish to continue, these need a serious look at, we all know white/red clover, and the sward needs to be roughly 50% to be self sufficient in N, and again we all know clover gets bigger as grass declines through the season, we are trying balsana clover, which is meant to come earlier. But there are over clovers/legumes out there, some of which never even heard of, all with glowing reports. Lucerne l have grown, but varieties like, crimson, egyptian etc, has anyone actually have/know anything about their 'practical' use ? Some claim short quick growing, high protien crop, and leave lots of N in the soil. Being a sceptical old sod, much sounds to good to be true, if they are as good as claimed, they certainly are not commonly used, why ?</p><p>Lucerne, is a great crop, and was told at college decades ago, it was a mystery why more wasn't grown, that is relatively easy to answer, it's not a flexible crop, on farm, it's cut only, and 4 yrs, we couldn't grow energy, maize, protien, lucerne, and enough grass, we chose maize,</p><p> So any info, good or bad, would be appreciated, we all need practical help, not reps bullshite.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="som farmer, post: 7763611, member: 86168"] with the scary information, re fert price, currently N is £500-550 a ton, if you can get it, just like petrol, panic buying, no doubt as things stabilise, price will fall, but not to pre madness. Unfortunately, protien costs tend to be based on the energy price as well, currently soya is £390/ton. The dearest imputs we have, after the unavoidable, are N and protien, which look to be rather higher than normal. I have no idea how some of the intensive dairy boys, will cope, at the current milk price, perhaps a clue, can be found in that the large local cheese maker, is shutting down 2 of his 10 dairy units, they buy from 150 other farms. There are pages and pages of info, about legumes, and their abilities, and if we wish to continue, these need a serious look at, we all know white/red clover, and the sward needs to be roughly 50% to be self sufficient in N, and again we all know clover gets bigger as grass declines through the season, we are trying balsana clover, which is meant to come earlier. But there are over clovers/legumes out there, some of which never even heard of, all with glowing reports. Lucerne l have grown, but varieties like, crimson, egyptian etc, has anyone actually have/know anything about their 'practical' use ? Some claim short quick growing, high protien crop, and leave lots of N in the soil. Being a sceptical old sod, much sounds to good to be true, if they are as good as claimed, they certainly are not commonly used, why ? Lucerne, is a great crop, and was told at college decades ago, it was a mystery why more wasn't grown, that is relatively easy to answer, it's not a flexible crop, on farm, it's cut only, and 4 yrs, we couldn't grow energy, maize, protien, lucerne, and enough grass, we chose maize, So any info, good or bad, would be appreciated, we all need practical help, not reps bullshite. [/QUOTE]
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