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In calf heifer comeback
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Explain why, using terms that non-farmers will relate to if possible.
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You obviously don’t know very much about buying/selling store cattle. The clue is in the words store cattle.
You obviously think your antiquated method of buying and selling "store cattle" is that, assuming it was tolerated before, which should continue in perpetuity.
The clue is in the words modern and progressive.
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There’s one thing that’s worse than not knowing what your talking about, that’s thinking you know what you’re talking about when you clearly don’t.
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I have admitted on many occasions I don't know what I'm talking about. The problem is you still think you know what you're talking about, despite no proof to substantiate it. Evidence would suggest you're winging it and hoping for the best.
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I think I know what store cattle are. Maybe I’m wrong. No one has ever said I’m wrong though. If store cattle are breeding cattle then I wonder what breeding cattle are? Maybe you know
If you can't tell the difference between store cattle and breeding heifers then surely you have to answer to yourself?
I don't know the difference, which is why I don't try to get involved in the marketplace. Perhaps you should do the same?
I don't know much about nuclear power, which is why I don't personally run nuclear power stations. I can probably still tell whether the postman should be managing a nuclear reactor, even from a position of ignorance.
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You don’t even know when I’m taking the mick out of you dear oh dear me
That's the thing, I can see straight through you. You are as transparent as perspex, and just as dense.
I had a group of heifers and steers mixed in a shed over winter. They went in in November. All steers had been cut by a vet and all had 2 balls taken out of them I always count them all into a bucket as the vet takes them out and count them out again. I always do this because a vet left one behind once and I had a one balled bull running round the place and we had another of a disagreement with the vet over it. Come February it was looking like some might be in calf. Got them
PD'd before turnout in april. All of the heifers bar one from a group of 7 heifers and 6steers were in calf. All from one pen in a shed the other pens were fine. It must have been one of those steers that served the heifers. Id seen them before and jumping on each other but no more than normal they always do it.
The vet was so concerned about it especially after our almost argument about the one balled bull that he asked to see all steers through the crush. None of them had anything in their scrotum and all had scars reaching both sides of the bag were they had been cut to remove from both sides. The dates the heifers calved they would have been bulled between November and february so it must have been one of the steers. The vet said it's not impossible for them to have an extra one up inside them but it's very unusual for them to be able to do anything with it because their body heat should kill the sperm. How would anyone have known or expected them to be in calf had I sold them as stores in december or January? There wouldn't have been a bull near them within half a mile and then it would have to espcape from its own shed and get into this shed. Luckily I was going to fatten them anyway so I kept them as cows.
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Haha I really would be worried if you had anything to do with nuclear power stations
Luckily for all of us I don't.
I would be worried if you had anything to do with more than tying your own shoelaces, or breathing at the same time as thinking. Thankfully for all of us you don't.
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So why don’t you answer my question. If you think store cattle are breeding cattle. Then what do you think breeding cattle are?
As I answered previously, in the simplest possible terms just for you - I have no idea. Just as I have no idea about nuclear reactors, submarines or fairies. Hence why I don't operate in those markets.
If you don't understand those markets you probably shouldn't be in them either, for the benefit of all of us.
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Haha
Is that an oriental translation or something I'm supposed to respond to? Please explain for those of us not involved in atomic fission on a daily basis.
livestock 1
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A breeding beast is sold with the intention to breed off in some shape or form as a bulling heifer, in calf heifer calved heifer or cow or a breeding bull. A store beast is sold with the intention of feeding up fat so it would be a steer or bull or heifer not incalf. Hope this is of some use
No, I'm afraid not. Even a layman like me understands that.
The question is why you, as a supposed expert on such things, can't tell the difference?