Never thought much of short wheelbase vehicles for towing except our Troopers tbh, but a lot of steep hills and farm tracks round here to test a vehicle. Any defenders I have ever driven have been very unimpressive really when compared to jap machines but that’s just a personal preference of course.
Ineos Grenadier and Land Rover Defender
- Thread starter Magnum Man
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yellow belly
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- south west lincolnshire
have Any of the pickups got british content or design
You can use that argument about every vehicle, do you need half the stuff on modern vehicles but it is nice to have it. I would say a powerful engine and good gearbox is more use to a farmer constantly hauling 3500kg about than somebody merely cruising up and down a motorway. The old defender argument is mute anyway when you see how the double cab replaced it on farm a long time before production ceased.
You have a 50 grand Amarok do you not but think farmers should make do with something a lot more basic
'the double cab replaced it'???
not here pal....the only double cabs I can think of are for specific family reasons.
Single cabbed HCPU remains the weapon of choice where the poo gets real- doing the above listed work.
It certainly isn't only me.
Ineos could up the engine power a bit- although i'm happy enough with TD5, and I've come to like the auto box on the wifes little disco run-around (I jest, it spends as much time pulling a heavily loaded 14' trailer as anything), so maybe an auto option.
But- without nitpicking- i'm perfectly happy with pretty much all of the rest of it.
I'm a cash buyer who'd keep such vehicles new if I could. (edit...if they made em)
I detest with a violent rage the morons who cultivated the concept that I might want silly gadgets and more electrics.
It has made my needs less attractive to cater for.
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HCPU?
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- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
No they shouldn’t make do, they should buy what they like! Not up to me. I don’t sell vehicles . We also don’t own our amarok. We lease them as they were no more to lease than a ranger and only a little more than a navaraYou can use that argument about every vehicle, do you need half the stuff on modern vehicles but it is nice to have it. I would say a powerful engine and good gearbox is more use to a farmer constantly hauling 3500kg about than somebody merely cruising up and down a motorway. The old defender argument is mute anyway when you see how the double cab replaced it on farm a long time before production ceased.
You have a 50 grand Amarok do you not but think farmers should make do with something a lot more basic
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
Australian pricing confirmed for 2022 INEOS Grenadier
Price locked in for five-door Grenadier, as prototype lands in Australia
www.whichcar.com.au
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- South Wales UK
French product selling to Australian market?
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- NSW, Newstralya
ahh, but isn’t the Grenadier “British” ?
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- NSW, Newstralya
great example of international diplomacy & how to “make friends & influence people” wasn’t it ?
- Location
- Hampshire
It was going to be until they bought a disused Mercedes factory in France.
TripleSix
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- Helmsley, North Yorkshire
We all howl on about wanting a vehicle to suit farmers, basic, towing, load capacity, dog proof etc etc
Less than 1% of the population employed in agriculture.
Hardly gonna be a big market share is it?
Less than 1% of the population employed in agriculture.
Hardly gonna be a big market share is it?
Cowabunga
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- Ceredigion,Wales
They are going to sell the Grenadier in Africa first and the UK will start seeing them in 2024. Maybe.
Frankly they have gone for really outdated engineering in an era where the IC engine is singing its swansong. If Rivian sells in Europe as well as an electric new Ranger/VW, to be launched in the UK about the same time as the Grenadier, plus Land Rover will probably offer an all electric Defender in five seat form by then, the Grenadier will turn out to be an irrelevant flop, selling in low numbers to NGO's and African customers in competition with the 300 series Land Cruiser [which is only being built in super-low volume of 5000 units per year. A sign of the times itself].
As a passenger vehicle it is in competition with several Land/Range Rover vehicles that will be well established and starting at a lower price than it. They won't be building pickups in any volume until probably late 2025 or 2026, at which point all European rivals will be all-electric, simpler, cheaper to run, needing less service and repairs and quieter and probably also far more powerful.
I reckon that Grenadier will be overwhelmed and unable to compete quite soon and will probably be history by 2030. That's my opinion as I see things developing currently. Ford with their F150 and Rivian are currently setting the pace but Tesla will soon shake things up with the Cybertruck and probably a narrower Cybertruck for sale outside of the USA by 2025 to compete. And compete they will.