Ineos Grenadier

[Bob lincs]

I quite liked the idea of one of these until I read thishttps://ineosgrenadier.com/en/gb/th...dium=Email&utm_campaign=Product_Page_Prospect

 

[Still Farming]

French !

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

Don't look at the price of a LR Defender!!
At least the Grenadier might survive farm use.

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

French !

French and German

 

[Still Farming]

French and German

NOT BRITISH

 

[Jim B]

Before VAT the cheapest one would be about £43k. I dare say many decent spec double cab pickups are getting close to this these days?

 

[Cowabunga]

Wha

I quite liked the idea of one of these until I read thishttps://ineosgrenadier.com/en/gb/th...dium=Email&utm_campaign=Product_Page_Prospect

What did you expect, the price of a Dacia Duster?
These prices include VAT, because these are not classed as commercial vehicles in the UK. Hopefully their commercial van version and pickup will not gouge their customers as blatantly as Land Rover do with the Defender commercial price relative to the consumer version.

 

[Cowabunga]

Before VAT the cheapest one would be about £43k. I dare say many decent spec double cab pickups are getting close to this these days?

You can claim the VAT back on those of course.

 

[Farmer Roy]

We can claim our GST ( VAT ) back on any vehicle, as long as it’s used for business purposes. Any GST registered business, not just farmers . . .

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

NOT BRITISH

Nor is the Defender or any other useful vehicle any more!!!

 

[Jim B]

You can claim the VAT back on those of course.

Of course, I didn't think they're not commercial. As you say, hopefully the van version will be better value still and become a realistic proposition for UK farmers.

 

[Still Farming]

Nor is the Defender or any other useful vehicle any more!!!

Could of been?

 

[hally]

It’s around where I expected tbh, just specced one to about 45k but a similarly specced hilux is about 40k surely although with a couple more seats.

 

[Cowabunga]

It’s around where I expected tbh, just specced one to about 45k but a similarly specced hilux is about 40k surely although with a couple more seats.

Plus the VAT can be reclaimed on the HiLux. Not so current Grenadier. Also all the other tax relief benefits for HiLux, not so for Grenadier.
To make sense for farmers and utility companies in the UK they need official commercial vehicle versions. That means vans and pickups and chassis/cab versions not passenger carriers unless they have enough seats to qualify. Five or six or even seven seats are just consumer SUV’s as far as HMRC are concerned.

No doubt they are after the SUV owners and private individuals wanting ‘luxury vehicles’ at a premium price initially. Or prioritising geographical areas where no such tax rules apply.

 

[Tim G]

They'll have to be expensive to help buy Chelsea FC.

 

[B R C]

Are you saying the Utilty version with only two seats is not a commercial vehicle in terms of vat and tax relief?

 

[spanners and hammers]

cant offer to many in the range as he is limted on how many he can make and sell

 

[Cowabunga]

Are you saying the Utilty version with only two seats is not a commercial vehicle in terms of vat and tax relief?

It appears to be fully glazed. If it were a blind van it would be a commercial but it doesn’t indicate that it is. The rear side doors and side windows behind the B pillar would need to be sealed and blanked off to qualify for some arcane reason.

 

[goodevans]

They'll have to be expensive to help buy Chelsea FC.

The real Chelsea tractor

 

[David.]

Makes mock of the original blurb about a replacement LR Defender then, thats obviously the lowest of their priorities.