Ineos Grenadier

hally

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Location
cumbria
Munroe looks like a diy kit car not something that costs over £65000. Also the duck may be right about the Grenadier in that it never seems to be priced with vat itemised for some reason, if it is not reclaim able it will kill it stone dead for agriculture. I am not sure vans will be popular with stock farmers now everyone is on double cabs, my old Trooper had to be left overnight with a window cracked open or it smelt of wet dogs all the time, with a double cab, dogs, dead lambs and all the other smells are nicely kept out of the cab.
 

Bob lincs

Member
Arable Farmer
I really want a G Wagon , trouble is a 5 year old one costs as much as a new Defender . G Wagon is loads cooler though and will hold it’s money , don’t know about reliability as don’t know anyone who owns one .
 

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
They have updated their web site again and now claim that both two seater and five seater versions are certified as commercial vehicles. This is very good news indeed and very unusual for a five seater. Some compromises have been made to achieve this, the most obvious being that the five seater has blanked off rear side windows, although rear side doors appear as standard. They do hint that rear seat legroom is compromised in comparison to the ‘normal’ non-commercial fully glazed five seaters. I have registered for information for when pickup truck is announced.

The price of commercial variants looks to be far better value than its main rival, even when the Grenadier is specced up nicely. The PDF of my spec won’t upload but I can upload a screenshot

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Note that I’ve specced a red painted chassis!
The price includes VAT.
 
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mf7480

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Mixed Farmer
They have updated their web site again and now claim that both two seater and five seater versions are certified as commercial vehicles. This is very good news indeed and very unusual for a five seater. Some compromises have been made to achieve this, the most obvious being that the five seater has blanked off rear side windows, although rear side doors appear as standard. They do hint that rear seat legroom is compromised in comparison to the ‘normal’ non-commercial fully glazed five seaters. I have registered for information for when pickup truck is announced.

The price of commercial variants looks to be far better value than its main rival, even when the Grenadier is specced up nicely. The PDF of my spec won’t upload but I can upload a screenshot

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Note that I’ve specced a red painted chassis!

I’ll be amazed if the 5 seater is fully VAT reclaimable? I thought the cargo space had to be bigger than the passenger space, or carry one ton?
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
I don't understand folk paying 50K+ for a 4x4 but speccing those hideous steel wheels.
Its a work vehicle expected to last more than five years, at which point alloys will start to look grim. Especially if they get bashed. Alloys are available though, of course, for probably the majority in the UK that will want them for the school run.
Face it though, this is not a ‘looker’ and you will never make a silk purse from a sow’s ear.
 
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Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
I’ll be amazed if the 5 seater is fully VAT reclaimable? I thought the cargo space had to be bigger than the passenger space, or carry one ton?
Yes, it is rather amazing that they can make that claim, but here it is...

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Note that it specifically says “The standard five-seat Grenadier Station Wagon is certified as a commercial vehicle"

Below is the next higher spec of five seater and it is not a commercial and has more rear legroom.
All this is rather surprising and good news, which is why I posted about it. The payload is 750kgs by the way and not a ton, which is another surprise, although blind vans and single passenger row vans and pickups have never needed to carry that much.
Prices include VAT

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mf7480

Member
Mixed Farmer
Yes, it is rather amazing that they can make that claim, but here it is...

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Can’t argue with that! They must have had a legal team looking at some very small print to have pushed the boundaries that far, but credit to them. I’m not sure I agree with you that it’s better value than a defender though, mine was considerably less than that in D250 SE spec
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Can’t argue with that! They must have had a legal team looking at some very small print to have pushed the boundaries that far, but credit to them. I’m not sure I agree with you that it’s better value than a defender though, mine was considerably less than that in D250 SE spec
Remember that you can get the two seater version to match the Defender 110 commercial more closely and that costs from around £41k + VAT. I’ve added £7k worth of extras [inc vat] to my five seater configuration and if those are added to the two seater, it still comes in at less than £46k + VAT.
 
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A man has pleaded guilty at Newtownards Magistrates’ Court to waste offences relating to a bonfire next to the electrical sub-station on the Circular Road in Newtownards, Co. Down.

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On June 25, 2018, PSNI officers went to Gill’s yard, where they found a large amount of waste consisting of scrap wood, pallets, carpet and underlay.

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