The Ineos Grenadier thread

Cowabunga

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Can’t argue with that! They must have had a legal team looking at some very small print to have pushed the boundaries that far, but credit to them. I’m not sure I agree with you that it’s better value than a defender though, mine was considerably less than that in D250 SE spec
Remember that you can get the two seater version to match the Defender 110 commercial more closely and that costs from around £41k + VAT. I’ve added £7k worth of extras [inc vat] to my five seater configuration and if those are added to the two seater, it still comes in at less than £46k + VAT.
 
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Its a work vehicle expected to last more than five years, at which point alloys will start to look grim. Especially if they get bashed. Alloys are available though, of course, for probably the majority in the UK that will want them for the school run.
Face it though, this is not a ‘looker’ and you will never make a silk purse from a sow’s ear.
You can get alloy wheels refurbished and repainted for not daft money.
 

Cowabunga

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If it's a work vehicle I don't need red chassis but steel wheels, radio 4 and ideally cruise control are all I really expect or need
Dacia may make something suitable for you. But if a vehicle doesn’t suit your requirement or pocket, just move on and get something that does ‘float your boat’.
 

Cowabunga

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It is (well 2008). 3000 miles a year

Hence my point agreeing with others , I just don't see a work truck being £50/60k plus . Barking
It is obviously barking for you and you couldn’t possibly justify one. However you probably couldn’t justify a new one back in 2008 either if your work pattern was similar to today’s.

I bought a LR 110 HiCap pickup with all of 67hp, and it even had a heater, heavy duty rear springs, power steering and a tow hitch, back in 1984 for £15000 + VAT. Adjusted for inflation that is actually £54,000 in today’s money plus VAT. The Grenadier and Defender today with the massive relative specification therefore look like very good value. It is unfortunate that farm incomes have not kept pace per unit of output, but that’s just how the world turns.
 
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JP1

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It is obviously barking for you and you couldn’t possibly justify one. However you probably couldn’t justify a new one back in 2008 either if your work pattern was similar to today’s.
That's true in that I'd buy a secondhand one 5-6 years old with 60k miles on the clock (BUT based on a vehicle costing £15-17k new not 50-60k)
 

JP1

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Thing is, you are obviously still living in the 1980’s.
Probably earlier TBH. My FB groups include the Ergomatic cab fan club and the F86 bubble cab group. I can still name many Terling and Lavenham Friesian family lines and know absolutely the difference between an Essex Saddleback and a Wessex Saddleback (no such thing as a "British" Saddleback in my book)
 

Cowabunga

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Besides which I could justify paying MORE for a commercial work vehicle/tool/tractor that gets a job done and lasts a long time than for a leisure or lifestyle type product. Most farmers would not pay £55k plus for a car but any tractor over 100hp today will cost at least that and they will pay for it because it is for work.
I got 22 years of work from that 110 HiCap so it was worth every penny and I could have sold it for good money any time if I had decided to.
 

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