Inert waste disposal

Illegally it is quite a good money spinner.

The boring legal route takes quite the shine off it 😂

No seriously everything must be above board as the EA/HMRC/Proceeds of Crime will take the shirt of your back if and when you are caught.

There’s quite a few variables to getting it set up as well.
Reclaiming or creating brownfield sites is usually the easiest to achieve.
 
We went through a planning application for a client to take 10,000 lorry loads to level a former railway cutting.
Everyone wanted their say from the EA to the Highways, Ecology and the Agricultural Consultant. By the time all was said and done the reports and surveys alone had topped £15k and we still had to overcome highways issues. In the end the client pulled the plug.
 
I must also state that we are working for a client facing Enforcement, EA and Court action over illegal dumping - he risks losing everything and unfortunately there is very little we can do to stop it, we are just trying to soften the blow.

Having seen it from both sides I know which way I would do it!

A lot of people don't realise how ruthless the Environmental Crime Team are and that they really go for the jugular given the chance.

The fine in court from the EA is actually the least of your worries if caught, the clean up charge, landfill tax/VAT avoidance, assets recovery.. they all get a go at you when prosecuted.
 

Bongodog

Member
If you are involving the big players in the muckaway game you will be fine, anyone taking loads from multiple small operators would need to ensure they are 100% on top of waste transfer notes, sampling etc. There are an awful lot of people who will put stuff in the bottom of a load that isn't what they declare, get this on your property and you are in big trouble. A well meaning person on our parish council arranged for a few loads of topsoil to be dropped off for a BMX bike track, when the mixed rubble started appearing on the surface it cost a lot of money to get it cleared away.
We had a site cleared and reinstated in the village by Mick George, they had a man permanently at the site gate, every load in had to produce a waste ticket and every load out was given a ticket as it left, even though it was all on their own lorry fleet. This is the level that keeps the EA off your back.
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
If you are involving the big players in the muckaway game you will be fine, anyone taking loads from multiple small operators would need to ensure they are 100% on top of waste transfer notes, sampling etc. There are an awful lot of people who will put stuff in the bottom of a load that isn't what they declare, get this on your property and you are in big trouble. A well meaning person on our parish council arranged for a few loads of topsoil to be dropped off for a BMX bike track, when the mixed rubble started appearing on the surface it cost a lot of money to get it cleared away.
We had a site cleared and reinstated in the village by Mick George, they had a man permanently at the site gate, every load in had to produce a waste ticket and every load out was given a ticket as it left, even though it was all on their own lorry fleet. This is the level that keeps the EA off your back.
I heard of a local farmer who had authorisation to dump a few loads of clean hardcore, was told the problem was the people doing the dumping would try to put a few tyres etc in the bottom of the load, so you really need to be on site to supervise each load and make sure there is nothing untoward in it.
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
I heard of a local farmer who had authorisation to dump a few loads of clean hardcore, was told the problem was the people doing the dumping would try to put a few tyres etc in the bottom of the load, so you really need to be on site to supervise each load and make sure there is nothing untoward in it.

This is my concern. I don’t trust that they wouldn’t try and pull a fast one.
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
Play by the rules and you will be great mates with the EA.

It's a strange one being involved in waste & recycling as both you and the EA need each other to survive

From what I have seen on the thread about the Hundred Foot Drain I’m not entirely sure the EA play by the rules themselves but prefer to make them up as they go along to suit themselves.

The cynic in my suggests they could have a vested interest in turning a bit of a blind eye to the big boys who can run rings round them and know how to work the system and instead clamp down hard on the small fish to prove a point and be seen to be being tough.

That could be an outdated view though I admit.
 

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