Ins And outs ofconverting SUV to commercial

roscoe erf

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Livestock Farmer
I am pretty sure from loads of similar posts on Land Rover and VW forums I follow that it is NOT possible to change the taxation class once it has left the factory. You can change the body type and the gross train weights and engine type etc. But the class will remain the same for taxation purposes. I will be happy to be corrected.
you can change the tax class jump trough some hoops and take some Vaseline but it can be done
 
I am pretty sure from loads of similar posts on Land Rover and VW forums I follow that it is NOT possible to change the taxation class once it has left the factory. You can change the body type and the gross train weights and engine type etc. But the class will remain the same for taxation purposes. I will be happy to be corrected.

Aye you can.

Plenty of vans converted to campers and tax class changed.
 

MOG

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Llanthony
Aye you can.

Plenty of vans converted to campers and tax class changed.
The body type is changed for sure (though not any longer it would seem), but the tax class will remain the same. It may have been different years ago, but since the M1/N1 tax classifications came in there is no (simple) way to change them just by converting to a camper. The Tax class of the base van remains the same.
 

roscoe erf

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Livestock Farmer
The body type is changed for sure (though not any longer it would seem), but the tax class will remain the same. It may have been different years ago, but since the M1/N1 tax classifications came in there is no (simple) way to change them just by converting to a camper. The Tax class of the base van remains the same.
no
It’s a legal requirement that all UK registered vehicles are classified correctly on the V5C registration certificate (log book). All campervans, motor caravans and motorhomes fall into the DVLA category of ‘motor caravan’.

If you’ve converted a van into a motor caravan, you must return the V5C to DVLA for amendment.
there is even a form on line to change your tax class I've done it umpteen times
 

Nearly

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Location
North of York
Spoke to a real person at DVLA today.
Easy she says, just fill in the changes on the v5 and send them back.
So I'll have a commercial if I reduce seats to 2 and black windows out?
No, you'll just have a very small car with a big, dark boot.

I smell a conspiracy!
 

sawdust

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Location
Argyll
Spoke to a real person at DVLA today.
Easy she says, just fill in the changes on the v5 and send them back.
So I'll have a commercial if I reduce seats to 2 and black windows out?
No, you'll just have a very small car with a big, dark boot.

I smell a conspiracy!
I think you've spoke to someone with a sense of humour :ROFLMAO:
 

Nearly

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Location
North of York
So either I buy another (3rd) (commercial) D2 and park one up in a shed and run commercial one through the accounts or....
I claim mileage at 45ppm for my business mileage, which may involve multiple vehicles, depending on the type of journey required.
Currently doing about 8k miles a year as business use. But likely to increase ;)
Repairs on my 15 year old vehicles seem also likely to increase.....until the vegans ban them. :(

But still a smaller carbon bootprint than making a plastic car with disposable batteries. :unsure:
 

MOG

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Llanthony
no
It’s a legal requirement that all UK registered vehicles are classified correctly on the V5C registration certificate (log book). All campervans, motor caravans and motorhomes fall into the DVLA category of ‘motor caravan’.

If you’ve converted a van into a motor caravan, you must return the V5C to DVLA for amendment.
there is even a form on line to change your tax class I've done it umpteen times


Not any more you won't be. Clarification from the DVLA. It is no longer possible to get a van reclassified as a motor caravan.

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I see the DVLA have confirmed in writing that they will not be classifying ANY self built campers as "motor caravans" from this point on - at the request of the police.

This is a response to an FOI request:
The primary purpose of the vehicle registration system maintained by DVLA is for road safety and revenue collection. It is vital that we do all we can to secure and maintain the accuracy and integrity of the vehicle register. This includes accurately describing the body type of the vehicle in question to assist the police in identifying vehicles involved in criminal activity.
As you are aware DVLA have recently seen an increase in the number of applications to change the body type description on their vehicle registration certificate (V5C), including converted single or double decker buses and heavy goods delivery vehicles, to what the customer describes as motor caravan. Whilst the interior of these vehicles may have been fitted with basic living facilities, the external appearance of these vehicles remains as they were constructed.
Unfortunately, there is no body type descriptor ‘living van’ or ‘camper van’ which could in some cases describe the majority of self/professional conversions of goods vehicles. ‘Motor caravan’ is the only body type description at DVLAs disposal to describe vehicles converted after first registration, either professionally or by the keeper and even those that are originally manufactured as motor caravans.
Whilst the internal specifications of a vehicle which has been converted as a 'Motor caravan' are easily defined, when describing the external appearance DVLA applies a 'reasonableness test' which is based on how someone would describe the vehicle in traffic or if parked on the road i.e. if you saw a Ford Transit with a window for example would you describe it as a 'van' or a 'motor caravan'?
As a result DVLA has reviewed the use of the body type descriptor ‘motor caravan’ in conjunction with the Police to ensure it accurately describes vehicles externally. The Police fully support the ‘reasonableness test’ and are of the opinion that if a vehicle is not first registered as a motor caravan or does not have a custom coach built body, it should not be described as a ‘motor caravan’. This means that all goods vehicles fitted with basic living facilities should be described externally as panel van, van with side windows or other relevant body type description.
 

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