Insane MF dealer workshop prices.

[njneer]

you forget to say, at car garages, you go to reception and pay on full before getting your keys back

What??? You don’t get 90 days ???

 

[Speedstar]

Im the only driver, so will keep that in mind. Thanks.

You will have some trouble with a 7718 dyna 6 with 215hp ,

 

[simon-0116]

I’ve had this before with a MF dealer job, tractor needed splitting to do damper plate. 40 hours work charged. The next time it needed splitting to do gearbox synchros which is basically the same job I used their previous MF trained fitter who has since gone on his own and he done the whole job in 20 hours including rebuilding synchros. Guess some of these main dealers are taking people for a ride cause when it’s in their workshop you dont know how long they spend working on it whereas on farm with mobile fitter you do.

Local dealer has scanners, scan job card every job they do. Even log off if help someone.

 

[jorgenbg]

You will have some trouble with a 7718 dyna 6 with 215hp ,

Hi
Clutch? What Else?
Thanks...

 

[Speedstar]

Hi
Clutch? What Else?
Thanks...

it will do the 3rd gear synchro on it

 

[Deerefarmer]

If you look at the car and truck industry for example charge out rates are routinely £90-100/ hr .
The whole set up is done on “Productivity Management”.
The dynamic is very different from Ag in that all work is pre booked ,because it is all done in house, with no on-site repairs .
This allows them to have a full book of
Previously arranged work for every hour of each day for work for each man .
All jobs will have a “book time “ and each man / woman is managed on their “Productivety” so if the book time for a repair is 4 hours and the mechanic repairs it in 2 then he is scored as being in a plus percentage of productivity and moves on to his next job.
It is possible that some mechanics can have well over 100% productivity .
I have heard even in some garages each mans productivity is shown on a screen within the workshop to drive competion and ultimately maximise profit from each man.
Even if they only break even on Productivety its
still 100% as they have accounted and charged every hour with a healthy margin.
Ag is very different , travel time , tidy up time, very flexible working practices with regards time slots for repairs , weather dependency, doesn’t suit customer today or a sudden change in weather when you have organised work.
I did a detailed study on workshop productivity and “Recovery Rate” ie what we paid out and what we charged out and the % of productivity for each man in the workshop and it is an eye opener as to how unproductive an Ag workshop can be , even a very well organised one .
The amount of “dead “ time, ie, hours that cannot be charged but still being paid for at certain times of the year is frightening .
When you start adding up these hours and multiplying it by your charge out rate it is a frightening amount of money being lost but it is impossible to ever run as efficiently as a car or truck garage due to the way the industry works.

This^^^^^
Thanks for that @njneer

 

[James]

it will do the 3rd gear synchro on it

Is that not a risk with any of them just likely to happen sooner if they are mapped or chipped

 

[Grouse]

Hi

Just got my MF7718 back from the stealers. The electric spool valve was playing up, and needed changing.

Invoice say:

8 hours of work at 100 punds per hour.

8 hours sounds just insane to me. Any idea what this kind of job involves. To me it just looks like a few scews.

Total price incl. parts with current exchange rate is 1600 punds ex. vat.

Thanks in advance.

Blimey who was doing the job - your solicitor - my local main agent is £49 per hour

 

[Hooby Farmer]

I’ve had this before with a MF dealer job, tractor needed splitting to do damper plate. 40 hours work charged. The next time it needed splitting to do gearbox synchros which is basically the same job I used their previous MF trained fitter who has since gone on his own and he done the whole job in 20 hours including rebuilding synchros. Guess some of these main dealers are taking people for a ride cause when it’s in their workshop you dont know how long they spend working on it whereas on farm with mobile fitter you do.

In Feb we split a massey changed damper plate and rebuilt an engine and screwed together again for a local dealer as they were too busy. Took 28hours over three days.

 

[Bullring]

In Feb we split a massey changed damper plate and rebuilt an engine and screwed together again for a local dealer as they were too busy. Took 28hours over three days.

Haha, my dealers 40 hours labour took over 3 weeks to complete and they wouldn’t even lend me one.

 

[farmerm]

100 quid an hour is extortion. Guaranteed the mechanic wont be gettin near that not even near half that. How can they justify that.

Not speaking from experience but I bet that is cheap compared to a BMW main dealer hourly rate... It is pretty ridiculous though... when mechanics time is charged at that amount I assume it is because they need to make enough to cover the other average other 4 days a week their mechanics are sitting round with fudge all to do

 

[L4048]

100 quid an hour is extortion. Guaranteed the mechanic wont be gettin near that not even near half that. How can they justify that.

try electric, gas, water rates building rent or maintenance. Computers and software for office staff. Computer licenses to run operating systems like Gold. Computer licenses to run diagnostics in the workshop. Safety footwear and boiler suits, need i go on ?

 

[dee]

In Feb we split a massey changed damper plate and rebuilt an engine and screwed together again for a local dealer as they were too busy. Took 28hours over three days.

Was that the one paddy sold you

 

[Johnnyboxer]

100 quid an hour is extortion.

Guaranteed the mechanic wont be gettin near that not even near half that.

How can they justify that.

Davey

My BMW Motorrad dealer charges £100/hour to service my motorcycle and I have to ride it 30 miles to them
They charge £10 + fuel used, for a loan motorcycle too
Free latte and donuts though

 

[Robt]

The irony in this thread..... complaining at high hourly rate ( it does seem a little high) then saying they are going to chip the arse off it.....

 

[topcat2006]

Davey

My BMW Motorrad dealer charges £100/hour to service my motorcycle and I have to ride it 30 miles to them
They charge £10 + fuel used, for a loan motorcycle too
Free latte and donuts though

The Latte and Donuts aren't free - you paid for them in the £100 an hour along with that shiny showroom with all the glass and the nice floor!

 

[James]

Hi

Just got my MF7718 back from the stealers. The electric spool valve was playing up, and needed changing.

Invoice say:

8 hours of work at 100 punds per hour.

8 hours sounds just insane to me. Any idea what this kind of job involves. To me it just looks like a few scews.

Total price incl. parts with current exchange rate is 1600 punds ex. vat.

Thanks in advance.

Bill in from my local dealer and labour is billed at £45/hr

 

[daveydiesel1]

Bill in from my local dealer and labour is billed at £45/hr

Thats dear enough for any man

 

[Greythundercloudys]

Yes, get a one man band, aslongs he is good, much cheaper per hr for a start..

 

[puntabrava]

Had the outer one replaced two years ago, but this time it was the inner one. They called me 5 minutes before closing to tell me it was finished. Just found it a bit odd. A hole working day for one spool valve sounds a bit much, but I guess its possible.

First rule of machinery repairs, get them to come to you.