Insects on the brink

Discussion in 'Agricultural Matters' started by Bogweevil, Feb 11, 2019.

  1. silverfox

    silverfox Member

    I agree with that. After 10 yrs of HLS I hated the things. Half the village walked on them and the weeds spread out from the hedge .
     
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  2. Brisel

    Brisel Member

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    Dorset
    I agree. The current model works on 1 ha of pollen & nectar and 2 ha of winter seed for every 100 ha of land in the scheme if you want to Farm Wildlife & Pollinator package.
     
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  3. glasshouse

    glasshouse Member

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    lothians
    You cant have them near humans
     
  4. willy

    willy Member

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    Rutland
    A company called the environment bank, was set up by a chap near me, and the idea was to link private sector who need to offset their environmental impact and set up a 10-30 year private contract with farmers. So for every bit of damage done by building a new supermarket for example an area of X was contracted out to a farmer.

    I think this is a way forward but councils and government have thought they can do better I suppose.
     
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  5. willy

    willy Member

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    Rutland
  6. Clive

    Clive Staff Member

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    Lichfield
    I would love to see a higher level of support for any farmer who says they will use zero insecticides

    Extra money to cover the extra risk seems fair to me whilst offering clear value to the environment to square such payment wit the tax payer


    why on earth don't we see simple common sense policy and instead just pay that tax payer money to quangos and industry leaches to keep telling us there is a problem ??
     
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  7. Simon C

    Simon C Member

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    Essex Coast
    100% with you on that Clive, I would happily take the risk with occasional BYDV if there was public money to help.

    Then another payment to reduce or cut completely N use and all sorts of environmental problems would be solved..
     
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  8. Clive

    Clive Staff Member

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    Lichfield

    is such simple, basic common sense, win / win for everyone

    If only I could be Micheal Gove for a day !!
     
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  9. glasshouse

    glasshouse Member

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    lothians
    Just double the bps payment if you are organic.
    Sorts everything, including obesity
     
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  10. Stewart Setter

    Location:
    Suffolk
    more scare monger stories.. Insects were here before us and will still be here long after us ( the rate we are going ).

    Yes, there are declines in species, which is not great, but to say what they are saying is nuts.

    Just another story to hammer the agr sector..
     
  11. Stewart Setter

    Location:
    Suffolk
    and there is the absolute truth.. Our species is massively over populated. Our elderly are living longer, our medical advances keep us alive longer, people popping out children despite not being able to afford it..
     
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  12. delilah

    delilah Member

    So long as one of us in the UK consumes the same amount of the earth scarce resources as do 100 people in less developed countries, we have no right to take that line. It's not the number of people, its how those people - us - live their lives.
     
  13. glasshouse

    glasshouse Member

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    lothians
    The biggest loss of topsoil is to house building
     
  14. Clive

    Clive Staff Member

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    Lichfield
    pretty sure house builders don't dump it in rivers and the oceans though ................ after adding a few nitrates and residual pesticides that is



    It's seriously naive to think Ag has no issues and is nothing but good for the environment, it makes us look very silly as farmers to claim otherwise regardless
     
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  15. Sonoftheheir

    Sonoftheheir Member

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    West Suffolk
    I think we should all pack up and let our fields go wild. Then we can import food from countries where we can’t see what’s going on. We’ll feel much better for it, I’m sure.
     
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  16. Surgery

    Surgery Member

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    Oxford
    Certainly through France etc I can see this being true , you don’t see hardly a hedge , ploughing right up to a ditch-Dyke.
     
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  17. willy

    willy Member

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    Rutland
    Unfortunately this is how our elite (bit of an overstatement) politicians think.
     
  18. Poorbuthappy

    Poorbuthappy Member

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    Devon
    Or we could just learn to farm more responsibly/ sustainably. We want to have a product to shout about that is worth a premium over imports?
     
  19. glasshouse

    glasshouse Member

    Location:
    lothians
    Its still being lost to food production.
     
  20. Clive

    Clive Staff Member

    Location:
    Lichfield
    that's true but its no where near as big an issue or contribution factor too the impact of global food production vs damage to the environment
     

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