Intensive Beef

where do I get the sh!t to put in it ? and growing crops for one is a VERY silly idea if we are talking about sustainable agriculture here !

biggest one in the UK is 9miles from me and spends more time broken than working it seems, we get a lot of the digestive from it already (which isn't very much given its downtime) its not great stuff for soil though IMO aerobic and contains alcohol's which are damaging to soil life, I forgive it that fact though on the basis that any OM is better than none and it free delivered and spread !

Where does the alcohol come from?
 

DRC

Member
Current state of the markets and the insatiable demand for electricity, it must be better to put maize into an ad plant than dairy cows?
This is the truth of it. My neighbours AD plant runs on a mix of crops, including hybrid rye, which was whole cropped in July, had digestate spread on it, and now has a cover crop of mustard growing on it.
Food production doesn't pay at the moment.
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Current state of the markets and the insatiable demand for electricity, it must be better to put maize into an ad plant than dairy cows?
that don't make it sustainable green or sensible and some folk talk about BPS payments that game is subsidised three times, if the whole bloody lot was shut down tomorrow I wouldn't be sorry
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
that don't make it sustainable green or sensible and some folk talk about BPS payments that game is subsidised three times, if the whole bloody lot was shut down tomorrow I wouldn't be sorry

Sustainable, green or sensible don't pay my bills, the more production that goes to energy and away from food, then the better for us peasant food producers(y)
 

DRC

Member
that don't make it sustainable green or sensible and some folk talk about BPS payments that game is subsidised three times, if the whole bloody lot was shut down tomorrow I wouldn't be sorry
The greenest and most sustainable thing to do at the moment would be fallow, as we are producing food and getting paid less than COP.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
while we have subsidised Ag maybe a scheme to pay farmers to plant covers vs a cash crop each year would do more for the environment and cut production to levels that supported reasonable returns for what was still produced ?

however I would rather see the back of subsidised Ag all together than to plan a business around it !
 

DRC

Member
while we have subsidised Ag maybe a scheme to pay farmers to plant covers vs a cash crop each year would do more for the environment and cut production to levels that supported reasonable returns for what was still produced ?

however I would rather see the back of subsidised Ag all together than to plan a business around it !
One of the options in the new stewardship scheme is a two year legumous fallow, which at £200/acre, would be a good break crop. Don't suppose they would allow hundreds of acres of it though.
 

Thick Farmer

Member
Location
West Wales
I spoke to a man this week who was getting paid £160/acre to grow unsprayed, spring barley. He said he would have covered the whole place in it if it wasn't for wanting to keep his beef herd.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
One of the options in the new stewardship scheme is a two year legumous fallow, which at £200/acre, would be a good break crop. Don't suppose they would allow hundreds of acres of it though.

thats interesting - I could use that on some poor land to maybe improve it

not looked at the new schemes - any links to published details yet ?
 

unlacedgecko

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Fife
I spoke to a man this week who was getting paid £160/acre to grow unsprayed, spring barley. He said he would have covered the whole place in it if it wasn't for wanting to keep his beef herd.


The system is f**king madness. Wish someone would pay me not to drive a truck! All in the name of reducing carbon emissions you understand...
 

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