Intensive Beef

[S J H]

you don't need to spend a fortune trying to run before you can walk. all you need is one hundred foot shed and a crush. stick 50 stores in it, fatten and sell, then repeat with another 50. if you find its working for you, put up another 100 foot shed.and another etc if not, sell the crush and use your shed for something else

I think that's would only work if you're willing to do them yourself rather than employ someone solely to do the cattle.

 

[DrWazzock]

Save yourself a lot of bother and just sit round the ring at the store market for a few weeks. Observe the crazy prices being bid while asking yourself "how the hell are they going to make that pay?"

What's the margin that the big finishers now achieve? £20 per beast?

Another race to the bottom. Perverse farming logic where the boast is how many thousands of stock and hours you need to work to make a living as your margin is reduced to next to nothing. All wrong in my opinion.

Supply less, work less, watch margins rise.

 

[gone up the hill]

Save yourself a lot of bother and just sit round the ring at the store market for a few weeks. Observe the crazy prices being bid while asking yourself "how the hell are they going to make that pay?"

What's the margin that the big finishers now achieve? £20 per beast?

Another race to the bottom. Perverse farming logic where the boast is how many thousands of stock and hours you need to work to make a living as your margin is reduced to next to nothing. All wrong in my opinion.

Supply less, work less, watch margins rise.

Yep £20 head profit is what the big fhinshers work on..

Store cattle are just too dear to make any more!!

The only way to make real money out of cattle fhinshing is not to take any wages out of the business!

Complete madness thinking about it really to invest 2 million to make a net profit of £20k a year!!

 

[Poorbuthappy]

The neighbour wants to be able to turn his dairy cows out early onto the ground so doesn't want sheep taking the early bite.

So he buys the winter grass to graze in the spring.

 

[caveman]

Local Mart yesterday.
Apparently a guy wouldn't let his fat lambs go for £54.
As the circus moved on, he moved them to the store pens, where they later made £60 with no mlc levey.
How the fekk does that work?

 

[jon115r]

If u have a shed get it filled with good quality beef bred stores 550 to 600 kilo keep them 60 days on a good finishing blend majority will be ready in the 60 days but u have to kill the ones that are not thriving waste of time keeping them another 60 days, just get on with it don't listen to anyone else

 

[Henarar]

Local Mart yesterday.
Apparently a guy wouldn't let his fat lambs go for £54.
As the circus moved on, he moved them to the store pens, where they later made £60 with no mlc levey.
How the fekk does that work?

perhaps they were not fit

 

[Douglasmn]

It would be a nightmare having big groups of cattle I the area Clive is in without proper fencing. I can't image two rows of electric fencing keeping Limmys in for long, and add in dog walkers and busy roads.
You'd have to be mad, and I doubt any insurance company would want to insure the liability of that.
Clive is close to some very big towns and cities, and major road networks .

Electric here has been far more successful than "conventional" fences. They will touch it once and never again, simple as that. As for farming on the urban fringe...no experience there so can't comment. Doesn't sound like a lot of fun though, that's for sure.

 

[DRC]

thats interesting - I could use that on some poor land to maybe improve it

not looked at the new schemes - any links to published details yet ?

Look up countryside stewardship on natural England website. It has all the options.

 

[Gulli]

gets expensive though ion big qty but yes a possibility

would rather be making money out of producing that much if it was possible and adding value to the crops we grow by feeding them , maybe it's not though and it seems form this thread that anyone owning any animal of any description is doing so purely as a hobby as no one makes any money out of it at all ?

Not so much. Just a great many livestock farmers have buildings etc. Already paid for and aren't putting up big sheds and hoping to pay them off.
There is money to be made in stock. But it's a lot harder to make any if you are investing 100s of thousands in the first place.
The only way to know if it will work is to sit down and cost it and then give it a go if it works on paper. Find your worker before you start building so they can have some input

 

[czechmate]

Electric here has been far more successful than "conventional" fences. They will touch it once and never again, simple as that. As for farming on the urban fringe...no experience there so can't comment. Doesn't sound like a lot of fun though, that's for sure.

It's fine untill something spooks them and they just run straight through it.
Talking limousins though

 

[caveman]

perhaps they were not fit

They would of been redirected by grader in the first place if they werent

 

[Douglasmn]

It's fine untill something spooks them and they just run straight through it.
Talking limousins though

I mean high tensile wires, properly strained. So that in itself is a proper barrier. If they are that startled that they'll go through a proper electric fence like that which they've been trained to then they'll get over anything.

 

[gone up the hill]

If u have a shed get it filled with good quality beef bred stores 550 to 600 kilo keep them 60 days on a good finishing blend majority will be ready in the 60 days but u have to kill the ones that are not thriving waste of time keeping them another 60 days, just get on with it don't listen to anyone else

Can you post some figures to justify the above??

( all very well saying just do it but you need to know first if the figures will stack up or not!! )