Intercropping - Oats/Peas Charlock problem

Discussion in 'Direct Drilling Crops & Agronomy' started by Fuzzy, Jun 4, 2018.

  1. Fuzzy

    Fuzzy Member

    Location:
    Bedfordshire
    I have an Oat/Pea crop growing quite nicely, but charlock is becoming an issue.
    What spray could i use to take it out ?
     
  2. trouble is i guess the charlock has fair size and toughness about it by now ?

    I have used MCPB before but dont ask me how much tho.....
    ......It will knock it back.
    It will have a bit of effect on the peas as well ... but dont worry :whistle::unsure::nailbiting::)(y)
     
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  3. Just out of interest, are you planning to combine or forage the crop? Do oats and peas mature together ok for combining?

    Sorry, but I'm no help to you for your herbicide question.
     
  4. Fuzzy

    Fuzzy Member

    Location:
    Bedfordshire
    It is a crop for Combining and then to bale the straw.
    I expect them to mature around the same time, and will use reglone if necessary.
     
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  5. Might try some next year. Will see what my agronomist says about herbicide options.
     
  6. not such a break crop but.....
    Barley and peas will come together especially with a bit of care choosing varieties. At harvest you dont want to be delayed as far as the peas are concerned of course ......cut it as soon as they are fit .... with decent weather it works well and even a bit of lodging is not a disaster like peas on their own can be.
    Not for oats and to be used in a normall till situation .:bag:..but ...Stomp (pendimethalin.) for barley and peas (Pre- em only) .

    one fungicde and no need for preharvest if you get your timing right and give the crop priority at that time with the combine...(y)
     
  7. Oats and peas would make a good break, but trickier for getting them together for harvest?

    And presumably less herbicide options?
     
  8. Fuzzy

    Fuzzy Member

    Location:
    Bedfordshire
    I also have Barley and Beans in another field !!
     
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  9. o_O:)
     
  10. Kiwi Pete

    Kiwi Pete Member

    Location:
    Owaka, New Zealand
    At a guess 2,4 DB would leave the peas alone?
    2,4,D would nuke them

    I am no herbicide expert BTW
     
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  11. henric irbladh

    Location:
    Sweden,south
    Have used 0,2l/ha MCPA 750 on weaning peas, no problem. DonĀ“t know if that is any use on charlocks
     
  12. Rihards

    Rihards Member

    Location:
    Latvia
    I have used 0.4l MCPA super 500. No problem at all. Sprayd at evening side after no windy day. I would say Can go up to 0.6l ha.

    Some of mate here with biger balls using 0.4mcpa 750
     
  13. Fuzzy

    Fuzzy Member

    Location:
    Bedfordshire
    I used MCPB and it sorted charlock and some fat hen. Oats and Peas all looking good!
    June 2018 043.JPG June 2018 044.JPG June 2018 045.JPG
     
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  14. Fuzzy

    Fuzzy Member

    Location:
    Bedfordshire
    I used MCPB and it worked well on Charlock and a bit of fat hen. Oats and Peas are doing well ! June 2018 045.JPG June 2018 044.JPG June 2018 043.JPG
     
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  15. MCPB will sort charlock. I'm not sure I would be brave enough to use MCPA but I know people who have.

    2,4DB won't hurt peas too much will it?
     
  16. Ugo79

    Ugo79 Member

    Location:
    The Shire
    How did your Oat/Pea crop perform last year? I'm interested in knowing more especially regarding the drilling rates and ratios of the different seed.
     
  17. Fuzzy

    Fuzzy Member

    Location:
    Bedfordshire
    The crop yielded just under 2.5t/acre of which about 0.5t was the peas , which when you consider lack of rain after sowing is very good.
    In fact someone growing a normal crop of peas nearby didn't bother combining the crop as they were so poor.
    Pea seed rate was about 100kg/ha and Oats about 180kg/ha.
    If i was doing this again i would increase peas to 130kg/ha and reduce the Oats to 150kg/ha as i felt the Oats dominated the Peas too much.
     
  18. jonnyjon

    jonnyjon Member

    Thats a heck of a seed rate??? About 18st/ acre in old money?
     
  19. Fuzzy

    Fuzzy Member

    Location:
    Bedfordshire
    I tend to agree with you, but if you look at my pictures above the crop looks about right to me, it was standing nicely at harvest and was easy to combine.
    However it was a low rainfall year and most other spring crops around here were poor, so i am very pleased with the results. Maybe with more rain it would have all gone flat !!!
     
  20. Ugo79

    Ugo79 Member

    Location:
    The Shire
    How much nitrogen did you apply?
     

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