Jetemp
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Has anybody used this this Autumn?? How has it worked any good or bad stories for it??
James
James
IPU, blutron
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What weeds?
2lt of generic stomp would be inexpensive. Could be easily hotted up for BLWs with a variety of things.
I think I made the mistake of including that in my pre-em..............
Only FFCT, DFF and full rate PDM. Suppose could have added a bit more of the first 2.........
Jetemp
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After having the product and how it's been re registered explained I can sort of understand how lower rates of active may be able to do a similar job as the old ipu.
We haven't used it as we were told it was rubbish, had lower dose rates etc etc. (Supply agronomists advice!!)
But I'm questioning that and was looking for experience of anybody that had used it
We haven't used it as we were told it was rubbish, had lower dose rates etc etc. (Supply agronomists advice!!)
But I'm questioning that and was looking for experience of anybody that had used it
The manufacturer of this stuff is a member in here - I'm surprised they haven't commented yet.
If 2.5 kg/ha of IPU had limited effect I don't see how 10% of that dose will be as good regardless of how well it is formulated.
http://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/ipu-back.33022/#post-621500
If 2.5 kg/ha of IPU had limited effect I don't see how 10% of that dose will be as good regardless of how well it is formulated.
http://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/ipu-back.33022/#post-621500
Jetemp
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I'll try to put how it was explained to me, the 'numbers' I use may not quite be accurate but it will show the trend!!
We know that ipu is ground from a solid?? So we know that this has to be ground down and formulated into a product that is usable to us. When the product is ground down the solid particles are a range of sizes and if shown with the aid of a graph it would look something like a standard distribution curve.
Plants can only take up ipu which is a specific size, the old formulations included all of the ground ipu. So if only 10% of the ipu that we applied was ground to the correct size for plant uptake in the old formulations. The new formulations contain only ipu in the size range for plant uptake so 10% of blutron could have the same effect as the old formulations.
You can sort of guess where ipu that the plant couldn't take up ended, in watercourses, and that's why we lost it.
I was told this when chatting to a member of the approvals committee not a salesman!! What I want to know is if this is what is actually seen in the field?!!
We know that ipu is ground from a solid?? So we know that this has to be ground down and formulated into a product that is usable to us. When the product is ground down the solid particles are a range of sizes and if shown with the aid of a graph it would look something like a standard distribution curve.
Plants can only take up ipu which is a specific size, the old formulations included all of the ground ipu. So if only 10% of the ipu that we applied was ground to the correct size for plant uptake in the old formulations. The new formulations contain only ipu in the size range for plant uptake so 10% of blutron could have the same effect as the old formulations.
You can sort of guess where ipu that the plant couldn't take up ended, in watercourses, and that's why we lost it.
I was told this when chatting to a member of the approvals committee not a salesman!! What I want to know is if this is what is actually seen in the field?!!
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If that's the case, then why have they only gone for the low rate equivalent and not the old full rate which was 5 litres? Do we have any ballpark prices of it yet?
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crazy. Sumimax will be relaunched as an amazing new active soon....
The sheer dose rate of 2.5 kg/ha ai increased its chance of getting into water. CRD approval is more about the environmental fate & toxicology now than whether it does the job or not. The market place will soon sort that one out & not manufacturer is going to submit an application without knowing that it works!
shakerator
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It'll do meadow grass but not oats or bg
I wonder if CRD and WRAG share offices
I wonder if CRD and WRAG share offices
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