IRA

[Scribus]

Ashtree directly implied that DUP officers had personally benefited from the RHI scheme. I'm not aware of any evidence to say that was the case. He lead the way in dishing it out, let's be honest. Not that it makes it right of course. But it's just typical of the playground bully to go crying when it's turned back on them.

To be fair the whole scheme was as dodgy as hell and all sorts of accusations were being thrown around. Did DUP officers benefit personally? It's not been proven but the DUP bent over backwards to keep the scheme running.

 

[Pond digger]

If it's Christianity you refer to, then quite the opposite is actually true (or at least a specified aim) - that rather than be convinced of our own self-importance, we are to examine carefully our shortcomings, and in light of that, behave in an appropriately humble fashion, putting the needs of others before our own. It stands in direct contrast to today's ME society, which I don't doubt is one reason why it's rather unpopular.

And why do you assume that such qualities are confined to the religious? They are certainly not!

 

[The Agrarian]

I didn't say they were. But, in general terms, Christianity speaks strongly against selfishness and for humility and selfless acts. You will find these qualities to varying degrees across Western secular consumer society. But it's in spite of society, rather than a product of it. Some indivdual's nature leans more to it that others. Nowhere is it more visible than in my children. No. 1 is as selfish and self-serving as they come. No. 2 is just about as selfless a soul as I know. No. 3? Well, she will buy and sell No's 1&2 I suspect. Rather than leaving up to their own nature's to rule them, Christianity teaches them (indeed demands of them) without favour or prejudice to value humility, self-examination, and generosity of spirit. That's very different from wider society, where anything goes.

 

[holywell farmer]

letter bombs sent to a few places in Britain,is brexit to blame? And if so what are they trying to achieve?

Ira are scum bags no better than Al quaida

 

[Danllan]

no we/re not

Err... a long time ago the two main island of the British Isles were named Great (as in 'large') Britain and, oh go on, you can guess the other one...

 

[jpd]

Isle of man?

 

[nivilla1982]

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/r...le-in-supporting-ira-says-historian-1-8878846
Republic of Ireland played integral role in supporting IRA, says historian

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/d...epublic-of-ireland-support-for-pira-1-8880519
‘Dublin must now come clean on Republic of Ireland support for PIRA’

 

[gone]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42510529

 

[Highland Mule]

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/r...le-in-supporting-ira-says-historian-1-8878846
Republic of Ireland played integral role in supporting IRA, says historian

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/d...epublic-of-ireland-support-for-pira-1-8880519
‘Dublin must now come clean on Republic of Ireland support for PIRA’

To be fair, Washington and Boston financed the PIRA for years.

 

[M-J-G]

Ira are scum bags no better than Al quaida

Just like all terrorist organisations and those who support them, and you would be amazed at who has supported them.

The IRA were just one part of the troubles, it was a lot deeper than that, and was far from straightforward and one sided.

There is a lot of blood on the hands of a lot of people who are at the top of Ivory towers. Just because some deny being involved in terrorism doesn't mean that they weren't involved.

 

[nivilla1982]

Killings by Military and Paramilitary Groups (1969-2001)

Republican Paramilitary Groups
Irish Republican Army (IRA) (includes 88 by non-specific Republican group since 1970)
1,823

Official Irish Republican Army (OIRA) (includes 3 by non-specific Republican group during 1969)
56

Irish National Liberation Army (INLA)
123

Irish People’s Liberation Organisation (IPLO)
24

Saor Eire (SE)
3

Real Irish Republican Army (rIRA)
29

Total
2,058

Loyalist Paramilitary Groups
Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) (includes RHC, PAF, and PAG)
483

Ulster Defence Association (UDA) (includes UFF and LRDG)
262

Loyalist Volunteer Force (LVF)
18

Red Hand Defenders (RHD)
8

Non-specific Loyalist group (LOY)
256

Total
1,027

British Forces
British Army (BA)
297

Ulster Defence Regiment (UDR)
8

Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC)
55

Ulster Special Constabulary (USC) (“B” Specials)
1

Royal Air Force (RAF)
1

British Police
1

Total
363

Irish Forces
Garda Síochána
4

Irish Army
1

Total
5

Others (Unable or impossible to identify killing group)
Total
79

Cumulative Total (1969 to 31 December 2001)
Total
3,532

 

[M-J-G]

Killings by Military and Paramilitary Groups (1969-2001)

Republican Paramilitary Groups
Irish Republican Army (IRA) (includes 88 by non-specific Republican group since 1970)
1,823

Official Irish Republican Army (OIRA) (includes 3 by non-specific Republican group during 1969)
56

Irish National Liberation Army (INLA)
123

Irish People’s Liberation Organisation (IPLO)
24

Saor Eire (SE)
3

Real Irish Republican Army (rIRA)
29

Total
2,058

Loyalist Paramilitary Groups
Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) (includes RHC, PAF, and PAG)
483

Ulster Defence Association (UDA) (includes UFF and LRDG)
262

Loyalist Volunteer Force (LVF)
18

Red Hand Defenders (RHD)
8

Non-specific Loyalist group (LOY)
256

Total
1,027

British Forces
British Army (BA)
297

Ulster Defence Regiment (UDR)
8

Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC)
55

Ulster Special Constabulary (USC) (“B” Specials)
1

Royal Air Force (RAF)
1

British Police
1

Total
363

Irish Forces
Garda Síochána
4

Irish Army
1

Total
5

Others (Unable or impossible to identify killing group)
Total
79

Cumulative Total (1969 to 31 December 2001)
Total
3,532

I would never have believed that the loyalists would have killed so many, I thought they were a more benign force than that your stats suggest.

 

[Boohoo]

Another name added to the list of victims
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-47985469
and those responsible are already trying to rewrite history and put the blame on someone else

What do you do with people who have no idea of what's right and wrong?

 

[yin ewe]

No apology or remorse shown.

 

[Boohoo]

No apology or remorse shown.

No chance of that! Sure they were just quietly and peacefully taking care of their guns and petrol bombs when the police attacked them!!

 

[M-J-G]

No chance of that! Sure they were just quietly and peacefully taking care of their guns and petrol bombs when the police attacked them!!

Unfortunately giving this handful of idiots airtime is playing into their hands.
Best ignored!

 

[Danllan]

Unfortunately giving this handful of idiots airtime is playing into their hands.
Best ignored!

You are right to a point, but I'll admit the base reaction of thinking that they are best shot on sight... which is why it is very good news that we have ROE and judicial process.