Irish Border post Brexit

essexpete

Member
Location
Essex
Apologies if this aspect has been cooked to death but as a bystander I wonder how the riddle can be solved? I assume there is a great deal of cross border AG activity?
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
This seems to be one of the biggest Brexit sticking points & unless I've missed something we don't seem to be getting any support from Dublin either. Disappointing, considering the high stakes for the Irish. The tin hat is firmly on!

Politics. Having the hard border at the ports would be easier ad cheaper than multiple ones on the land border IMO but this is a "republican" move. NI can't even form its own government, never mind come to a final decision on how the EU border would work. I have little faith in Westminster's suggestion of using "technology" to soften the land border. We all know how well government IT projects work out, don't we?

What a mess!

I'd go with the Irish sea border option but that's just my opinion.
 

jendan

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
This seems to be one of the biggest Brexit sticking points & unless I've missed something we don't seem to be getting any support from Dublin either. Disappointing, considering the high stakes for the Irish. The tin hat is firmly on!

Politics. Having the hard border at the ports would be easier ad cheaper than multiple ones on the land border IMO but this is a "republican" move. NI can't even form its own government, never mind come to a final decision on how the EU border would work. I have little faith in Westminster's suggestion of using "technology" to soften the land border. We all know how well government IT projects work out, don't we?

What a mess!

I'd go with the Irish sea border option but that's just my opinion.
The logical thing,but then its practically a united Ireland,with N I staying in,and split off from GB.What T.May says or any other British PM would never agree to.
 

Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
As Eire is an island, it wouldn't be that difficult to have a pretty accurate idea of imports / exports to both sides of the border and then have an customs agreement on an annual tally of a projected cross boarder trade?
It would save the problem of stopping all the ag products going back and forth.
 

yin ewe

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Co Antrim
I don't see the need for anything to drastically change, we already have different currencies, vat rates and income tax rate/ systems, yet 1000s of people and vehicles cross the border on a daily basis. If we end up on WTO then the companies doing the trading can collect the tariff on behalf of HMRC in the same way they collect VAT.
It's scaremongering on a massive scale in an attempt to keep UK in the EU.
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
What's different than the border between Switzerland and EU?
The main difference is the EU needs Switzerland far more than Switzerland needs the EU. If the EU made life difficult for the Swiss The Swiss could make life doubly difficult for the EU by holding up the daily thousands of transports through the country which do not stop.
The problem of Ireland is that the EU see it as a lever , although in reality it would probably be a greater burden for them if we do not choose to Harden the border
 
I assume there is a great deal of cross border AG activity?

I've read an article about fresh produce (reefers of fresh chicken) from N.I. being driven across the border to get the ferry from Dublin to Angelsey, because the crossing is 5 hours shorter than Belfast to Liverpool. :scratchhead::scratchhead::scratchhead:

I assume livestock are sold across the border regularly?

If the UK is leaving the EU, the single market and the customs union, this must apply to the whole UK. Anything else isn't Brexit.
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
What is the EU's solution to the Irish border question?
They make everything an issue because they want to stop Brexit , bought on by our week uk Government who let the Remainers have far to much say

how do they manage goods now that come in from outside the EU, do New Zealand Farmers read the EU common rulebook before they send their lamb over
 

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